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Discussion starter · #41 ·
hey guys the 7R forks have been completed! the new pistons are working very well and together with the Silkolene RSF 5 oil, there is much more control and I can feel a big difference by just pushing with hands.
Next step will be to order the 6pots nissin calipers with ZCOO pads and a carbon fiber fender.
Once I've got all of that I can put everything on my ZXR and provide a report about this upgrade.

Will get back around January when, hopefully, I should have everything in place.
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Discussion starter · #42 ·
short update folks.

6 pots Nissin Calipers with Titanium bolts and ZCOO ceramic pads have arrived.
I'm struggling to find a carbon fender/mudguard for my bike.... that is the only thing preventing me to move forward!
very disappointing....
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Discussion starter · #46 ·
I tried contacting Sebimoto but they never replied...

I'm now trying with maxcarbon.it and they should give me an answer by this week.

Both Sebimoto and Maxcarbon have a good price (around 150€) the others in the UK have higher prices and also I need to pay customs taxes.... not really good to purchase from the UK anymore since the Brexit, and that's a real pity since I made good deals with UK shops.
 
It works the other way round for me, its hard and expensive to buy oarts from the EU now. It used to be easy and cheaper.
Sebimoto is not good with communication, place your order and your parts turn up at some point.
imagine my supprise when my girlfriend got a box with a lot of carbon fibre in it delivered that i couldn't intercept
 
Discussion starter · #48 ·
It works the other way round for me, its hard and expensive to buy oarts from the EU now. It used to be easy and cheaper.
Sebimoto is not good with communication, place your order and your parts turn up at some point.
imagine my supprise when my girlfriend got a box with a lot of carbon fibre in it delivered that i couldn't intercept
Hey Pyke13, I just placed an order to Sebimoto for my carbon fiber mudguard. In 3 weeks time they should be able to ship the package to Italy. Fingers crossed!!!
 
Discussion starter · #53 ·
Hi guys after few weeks I've finally received the new carbon fiber fender and it looks great! definitely worth the money!

So today I started with the swap work....

Here's the fender and how it looks like along with the ZX7R forks and the new nissin calipers

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New stem bearings, upper and lower
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some teflon grease and here we go, the new fork is on! :)
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Upper clamp fits perfectly; I just need to slide a little bit the forks down to maintain the standard bike height (or 5mm lower than that)
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will follow up with further updates in the next few days.

Cheers guys!
 

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Glad to see your making progress.
for the rear end a zx7r 96+ linkage is ment to work a lot better than the standard L model.
i think from memory the usual is 10mm forks showing above the top yoke and the rear shock screwed up to the cotter pin. This gives the big faster turning abilities and keeps it stable at speed, any more and it can get unstable on bumpy corners
 
Discussion starter · #55 ·
Glad to see your making progress.
for the rear end a zx7r 96+ linkage is ment to work a lot better than the standard L model.
i think from memory the usual is 10mm forks showing above the top yoke and the rear shock screwed up to the cotter pin. This gives the big faster turning abilities and keeps it stable at speed, any more and it can get unstable on bumpy corners
thanks Pyke13, I will start from there and see the results. At the rear end I already have a longer "dogbone" link (25mm longer than standard). I'll evaluate the option you suggested...thanks!
unfortunately today, while I was re-installing the fuel tank I broke the fuel tube and I need to replace it... so I spent some time to replace the brake fluid and remove all the air bubbles. The new calipers have a lot more fluid volume compared to the stock ones; I hope this contributes to a better temperature handling during hard braking.
 
Discussion starter · #57 ·
ok guys I have ridden the bike during the weekend and I can provide some feedback on these mods.

Front fork: definitely it's on another planet! I made a basic setup where, by pushing down to the handles, the fork is compressing then extending and then setting (a single oscillating cycle). I rode the bike with this setting and... no more bouncing, no more vibrations, very precise in the corners and perfectly stable at both high and low speeds. I'm very happy with that. I'll fine tune the setting over time but this is a huge improvement compared to stock forks. The only adverse thing that I found is that the bike is a bit less agile while entering corners and by some measurements I found that the frontend is around 10mm higher than stock, probably due to the stiffer springs (the forks have been installed with the exact same distance from wheel axle to the lower triple clamp, compared to stock, since I wanted to start from a well known setup). So now after some brainstorming I found that my ohlins shock's spring is in the lower range for my weight... I think I need to increase the spring stiffness from stock 80N/mm to 90N/mm as per Ohlins guidance (I am 80Kg) :

Ohlins K307 shock spring rate

01096-19 (70 N/mm) for rider between 30/70Kg
01096-24 (80 N/mm) for rider between 50/90Kg <--- this is the one I have today
01096-29 (90 N/mm) for rider between 70/110Kg <-- this is the one I think I need to move to
01096-31 (95 N/mm) for rider between 80/120Kg
01096-34 (100 N/mm) for rider between 90/130Kg
01096-36 (105 N/mm) for rider between 100/140Kg
01096-39 (110 N/mm) for rider between 110/150Kg
01096-41 (115 N/mm) for rider between 120/160Kg

I'm pretty sure by doing this change I will equalize the stiffness of the rear end with the front end (which is indeed stiffer than the rear, now) and the height will increase.
Worth noting the front ride height is at the minimum, so no way to reduce it further.


Brake: this is something I'm not fully happy with. The master cylinder has become a bit like a "sponge" despite I spent 2 hours to try removing all the air bubbles from the pipes. I'm sure there is no more air, however the brake lever is travelling too much and the braking starts very close to the handlebar. I think the master cylinder's piston is not big enough for the newer calipers (that have more internal volume to be moved). Does anyone know if the ZX7R cylinder is bigger that the ZXR? Maybe I just need a newer master cylinder (and I was thinking of a Brembo radial 19 RCS).
If anyone has any experience with that?

Anyway by simply squeezing the brake lever the bike just stops very quickly, so the new calipers and pads are very effective; I just do not feel safe enough to have the braking power ad the very end of the lever's travel.

Thanks for any comment!
 
I went for a zx10r nissin radial master and the difference is massive, im guessing the brembo radial will be another step again.
ive heard lots of bad reviews on the brembo costa corte, seals blowing under pressure. Not what you want braking into a corner.
 
Discussion starter · #59 ·
I went for a zx10r nissin radial master and the difference is massive, im guessing the brembo radial will be another step again.
ive heard lots of bad reviews on the brembo costa corte, seals blowing under pressure. Not what you want braking into a corner.
ok so I'll go for a brembo RCS 19mm. I think the extra money for the "corsa corta" (= short travel) it's not worth for me, so I'll go with the standard one (I did not know about this issue....agree that's really bad)
 
Im on a few track day/race pages and seen a good few folk on them complaining about the seals letting go.
dont know if its a design flaw, a bad batch or what. Most have bought them from reputable sellers so not likely to be counterfeit as i know theres a lot of fake brembo stuff out there. Master cylinders and rear thumb brakes seem to be a favourite to counterfeit
 
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