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ZX-6R "hard" break in

2.1K views 16 replies 10 participants last post by  brandon1239  
#1 ·
I just bought (September 11) a second-hand 2009 ZX-6R, Monster Special Edition, for the very reasonable price of 6500$ CAD (6300 USD). The mileage was very low (987 km/613 mi), the machine seemed to be in very good condition when I visually inspected it, and was (and is until November) still covered by Kawasaki’s warranty. Before I bought it, I had it fully inspected at a motorcycle dealer garage (www.rpmrivesud.com), and they found it in excellent condition.

Before buying it, I questioned the owner on how hard he had been riding, and if he had respected the break in max recommended rpms, but he was quite evasive about this. After the sale, he admitted that he had been doing intense accelerations up to 12000 rpms, "but only occasionally”. This is more than 2x the max recommended rpm for the first 1000 kms (620 mi).


1) Is it possible to verify if the engine was abused by overrevving?

2) What kind of consequences could this have if it happened ?

3) What can I do about it ?
 
#2 · (Edited)
christ.
*can-o-worms*

now.. i am certain some cats will come in here and try to shoot down what i say.. lol.. but i will be as blunt and up-front as possible.

the "recommended" break-in is bullshit.
plain and simple. i am a race engine builder. i have been building engines for almost 10 years. from M3s to race cars to turbo motors in bikes and cars, to race-winning off-road and track bikes, to MKIV supras and everything in between
EVERY time i built a motor, i beat on it.
NEVER ever in 8 years have i had an unhappy customer.

1. it is not verifiable unless it was started cold and ran to redline in the first few sconds of actually being started for the first time. a full teardown and blueprinting is needed at this point. assuming they kept clearances the same, big end on the rods will be from .0004"-.0016"
mains will be from .0018-.0022.. but no promises as i haven't built an 09 yet.


2. if its beat on.. you'll have more power as a result of better ring seal and high compression.

3. can't do shit. if you're scared, you shouldn't have bought the bike. that, or buy a new set of rings, hone the bores and get the crosshatch on ( use a diamond hone.. it's a nikasil bore) and .. well. might as well replace all the main and rod bearings. NOW, you have a new motor in need for the sissy ass factory break in!
 
#3 ·
+1
if something is going to go wrong with the motor at 12k RPM is isn't going to matter if you waited till after 500 miles to do it. break it in like you are going to be riding it. im still pretty new to motorcycles but i do have an engineering degree and that background is where i am speaking from.
 
#4 ·
+1

I dont have near the experience that Hendrix has, but I have been building engines for a little over two years now and have been pushing them hard. The "hard" break in is fine, its better, as Hendrix has said, for ring sealing. As long as the engine isnt stone cold while this is happening your fine. The soft break in was used way back in the earlier days of performance engines, due to the lack of quality parts and such. Engines would be torn down do to crappy parts. IE.. thrown rods, valves etc..

The "hard" break in is recommended.
 
#12 ·
+1 lol
built a full race motor on a 90 talon tsi, let it warm up and launched it down the street smackin the rev limiter in every gear and it ran fine for 120,000 miles. like the above posts said, break it in like you're going to run it.
 
#6 ·
You should be fine. You don't want to baby the engine too much. New engines have a fresh cylinder hone. A rough surface for the rings to wear against so they "seat" properly. The idea is not high revs but definately give it a decent amount of throttle. The increased cylinder pressure forces the rings against the cylinder walls. If you baby it the hone will smooth out before the rings have a chance to seat and you won't have optimal compression and oil retention. I would just stay away from the high revs until the valvetrain and lower-end bearings have a chance to break in.
 
#8 ·
they're babbit bearings.

non-contact

whatever color the bearing shell is (well. the paint.. blue, brown.. etc) determines the oil clearance and thats how it'll stay until cold starts eventually change the clearance
 
#11 ·
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THO.. that alone is not enough to seat rings.. but.. yes.
 
#13 ·
4g63 ftw