Yup! Shell Rotella T oil seems the way to go if you want to save some money on full-synthetic. This is what Wikipedia says:That's good to know, because I rarely step foot in one of these Cluster Fs of a store, yet the ones in my neck of the woods do not carry bike oil. Wierd. I too have gone to Rotella T6 as well..... even though it shows a picture of a bike on it, there is no indication that it has shear force modifiers in it.. and Hardlies have their transmission separate from the crankcase.
Oh well..... @ $21-23 a gallon, it will suffice for now... Ill just look the other way
Polymers are made of molecules as everything that's concrete substance. The shearing IS of the Polymers, NOT of the component molecules, they remain intact, cold loose from one another, but on the shearing process you won't get loose atoms or ions from this shearing of polymers. That's what I call physics sofism:Long chain polymers are MOLECULE chains. Syn oil has uniform MOLECULE chains, unlike regular oil, hence it is less prone to shear forces. Gearboxes shred these long chain polymers.
Well if you believe all the hype on the net, Amsoil is gawds gift to mankind.Sorry to butt in, gents..but what would the end result (best or most suitable oil) of all the above be please?
Nicely explained without being an arrogant ass about it.. :evilgrin:Polymers are made of molecules as everything that's concrete substance. The shearing IS of the Polymers, NOT of the component molecules, they remain intact, cold loose from one another, but on the shearing process you won't get loose atoms or ions from this shearing of polymers. That's what I call physics sofism:
Premisse One : Polymers are made of long chain molecules attached to each other,
Premisse Two: Polymers can shear,
Conclusion: You sheared the molecules!
You sheared the POLYMERISATION (THE ATTACHMENT) BETWEEN THE MOLECULES that formed a once polymer. The even name "polymer" reveals its own nature. :nerd:
winner winner chicken dinnerWell if you believe all the hype on the net, Amsoil is gawds gift to mankind.
To bad they never put it up against any other oils in INDEPENDENT studies....
Personally, Im a fan of Spectro Platinum or Royal Purple, but if you change you oil at regular intervals any of the popular brands should suffice.
Thank you Blanethemonothemostbeautifullavatar, for comprehending my point. I got bashed for my stubborn position about shearing in the past, here at ZX.Nicely explained without being an arrogant ass about it.. :evilgrin:
You are correct.... the breakage of the polymer chains is what causes the degradation, not the destruction of the molecules themselves.
I found that 10-40 semi synthetic works well and was advised not to use full synthetic as you can experience clutch slip. I change oil & filter every 3000 as gearbox runs in same oil.1993 zx750. I'm going to change the oil shortly and am curious as what to use? I've read alot of pros and cons to synthetic/desiel oils! ??? Help me out so I can get this done and still have a bike that moves...also can anybody tell me where to find a socket that works to change plugs?
Ow, I Missed that!I'm a big fan of Mobil 1 15w50 car oil. Been using it since the early 90's and never looked back. I bought a ZX9r brand new in 94 and started using it after the engine broke the 1000 kilometre mark, @ 95k the cams and followers still looked brand new and I was still on the original clutch (with no issues) when I sold it. I drag raced this bike at Race city Speedway in Calgary from the time i broke in the motor ([email protected]). Every bike I have bought since the first thing I do is change the oil to Mobil 1. In my opinion motorcycle specific oils are just hype. I change the oil every 5k kilometres even with synthetic because for me the added advantage of syn oil is not extended periods between oil changes, but using a better oil.
Just for the record, Wally World does sell Motorcyle Oil, here, anyways! :biggrin:and Wal-Mart does not sell motorcycle oil, for I have looked. I guess if you change it more often it would be fine, but IMHO, you are defeating the entire reason to use Syn oil. Longer time between oil changes.