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A growing list of questions regarding riding the 2012 ZX-14R.

Family Jewels: The positioning of the handle bar grips on the 2012 ZX-14R causes me to hug the gas tank, and this is putting pressure on the family jewels that becomes uncomfortable after riding a bit. I wear tight fitting briefs and relatively tight fitting jeans, although the jeans are not skin tight. Do the family jewels get conditioned to moderate abuse, or should I look into loose fitting clothing, or should I change the height / positioning of the handle bars so that I'm not forced to hug the gas tank so tightly?

Passenger Safety: I'm building up my riding skills again after 10 years of not riding at all. I am wondering what will keep my girlfriend from flying off the back if we hit a bump in the road or if I catch her off guard when I accelerate in an emergency (e.g., about to be rear-ended at a full stop). Corbin has a new seat with a back rest -- has anyone tried this particular back rest with prior year models, and is it really sturdy?

http://www.corbin.com/kawasaki/kzx1412cds.shtml
 

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1. Slide your ass back and lean over more. Might take some getting used.
2. Obvious but true, always ease on the throttle. In fact take everything slower. If I'm gonna hit it with the gf (I never goes full balls to the wall) I tap her hands to tell her to hold tight. Even when I open it up, I still roll into it, not snap wide open.

Ps why does my phone always try to write porn when I try to type open:headscratch:rolleyes
 

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I wear cotton boxer-briefs (like long johns cut off) under padded bicycle shorts when riding more than 100 miles. Also, copious amounts of Anti-Monkey Butt Powder in the crotch for dry lube and sweat absorption. Proper riding pants are made to conform to the position of a rider on a bike unlike jeans or any other street attire. Both my Tourmaster textile gear and my Dainese leathers are very comfortable and don't cut yer nutz off like jeans.

Your sig-other needs to be an active part of your ride and not just dead weight sliding around head-butting the back of your helmet with the front of hers. The Corbin backrest is plenty strong and I know several two-up couples who use them. There are also backrests made to be attached to the front of a topcase, if you ride with hard luggage. European ZX-14s come with a rear handrail that can be retro-fitted to U.S. models if desirable.
 

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Hammerhead and Chwebby: Thank you both -- excellent ideas. I was unaware the topcase might have a backrest attachment option.

I wonder whether the V46 Givi Monokey Topcase will permit me to attach a backrest connected to the topcase, or whether the topcase would take up the extra space needed to fit a Corbin backrest? [The topcase rack is back-ordered until mid-June, but the V46 was shipped out today.]

I keep looking at the chips in my Arai helmet from 10 years ago from my girlfriend hitting me in the back of the head with her helmet -- it's good to hear that I'm not the only one who experiences that issue.
 

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Hammerhead and Chwebby: Thank you both -- excellent ideas. I was unaware the topcase might have a backrest attachment option.

I wonder whether the V46 Givi Monokey Topcase will permit me to attach a backrest connected to the topcase, or whether the topcase would take up the extra space needed to fit a Corbin backrest? [The topcase rack is back-ordered until mid-June, but the V46 was shipped out today.]

I keep looking at the chips in my Arai helmet from 10 years ago from my girlfriend hitting me in the back of the head with her helmet -- it's good to hear that I'm not the only one who experiences that issue.
Everyone who's ever taken along an inexperienced passenger has been head-butted. Givi sells an optional backrest that can be attached to any of their topcases. I think the Givi/Motech setup would allow for either the Corbin backrest or their proprietary unit, but not both.
 

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Usually chicks hit my helmet only one time.

Then they get chewed out for hitting my nearly 300 dollar carbon fiber helmet that I love almost as much as my bike.

They don't do it again.
 

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I just wear chaps.
That's it. Chaps.
Hang my junk over my lap and let it flap in the wind.
 

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I use a good helmet to the head smack to snap a passenger into attention. Works every time.
 

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Excellent -- I'll make a decision then between the Givi backrest and the Cobin backrest!

Hmmm . . . . just chaps . . . that would be ideal for someone with above average endowments (rrzxter) . . . but being an average Joe myself, that would be like me wearing a muscle shirt to show off the muscles that I don't have.
 

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Raised Handle Bars -- Pros v. Cons: Has anyone ridden on a ZX-14R with raised handle bars, similar to the 2012 Ninja 1000 (i.e., a more comfortable upright seating posture)? I was told there is a kit that comes with longer cables to accommodate the higher handle bars, but am unsure whether this might adversely affect the handling.
 

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Neck Posture: I stopped by Lens Crafters and was advised that my eye prescription does not permit the type of curved lenses for frames such as Oakley, and I was told to look into other sports-related corrective lens / frame options that would permit me to keep my chin down while riding a supersport bike. At the present time, I have to keep my chin up to see out of the glasses -- which is like walking around while looking up at the ceiling.

Traction Control -- OFF: Can someone please give me an example of why someone would want to decrease the level of traction control, or turn it off completely?
 

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hmmm lets see....do u use your knees at all? well really knees and thighs to hug the tank? thats what i do even though i only ride a zx7 plus yeah i sit with my ass against the passenger seat and i use my thighs and arms 50/50 to support my weight....as far as undies im extremly well hung so i have to wear specially designed underwear that can handle my girth and size....
 

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I just wear chaps.
That's it. Chaps.
Hang my junk over my lap and let it flap in the wind.
sure hope you dont use that method to wave to other riders :angry
 

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Yes, perhaps my riding posture is incorrect because I have no experience on sportsbikes. When I move my ass back in the seat, I feel as if I am really stretching / reaching for the handle grips -- i.e., arms extended. No, my knees and thighs are not taking any pressure off the ride -- my arms seem to be taking all of the weight of my upper body. I have to be really careful going over a bump, because my family jewels have been slammed against the tank a couple of times.
 

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Are you using your legs to cushion bumps? You shouldn't just sit there inactive when going over bumps. It's often overlooked/ignored but your legs are actually a very important part of your suspension system.

I'm sure you've trying adjusting your twig and berries but everytime I go out about 10 seconds in I stand up, pull my pants down so they're not bunched up and make sure everything else is good to go. Also you don't have to slide back the whole length of your seat, an inch or two should be all you need.

Ever thought or tried contacts for riding?
 

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When riding normally on the 14R, is the goal to figure out a way to have the legs support some of the weight by standing on the foot pegs instead of just sitting normally with most of the pressure just slightly below the family jewels?

The foot pegs are positioned back slightly on the 14R, and I have not figured out how to really stand on the pegs to support the body weight. Trying to put weight onto the pegs actually puts more weight on my hands / arms in the push-up position.

I have a pterygium in the right eye that would prevent me from using contacts, and I'm avoiding surgery to have that removed.
 

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I just found something that discusses NOT having the heels of my boots touching the pegs when riding (except to shift and brake) -- I'm going to read it a few times -- I have never ridden with the balls of the feet touching the pegs, and this is a new concept . . .

http://www.sportrider.com/ride/146_0608_body_positioning_steering_techniques/index.html

I'm going to practice sitting on the bike and see if I can use the balls of my feet on the pegs. I don't think I've been consciously pushing forward on the inside handlebar going into a turn, which seems like it would steer the bike in the opposite direction -- it's been 30 years since I took the motorcycle safety course.
 

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O.M.G.!!! Placing the balls of the feet on the pegs changes everything about the riding posture !!! Holy cow!!!

I'm going to have to practice switching the foot forward when using the brakes and gears.
 

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Family Jewels: The positioning of the handle bar grips on the 2012 ZX-14R causes me to hug the gas tank, and this is putting pressure on the family jewels that becomes uncomfortable after riding a bit. I wear tight fitting briefs and relatively tight fitting jeans, although the jeans are not skin tight. Do the family jewels get conditioned to moderate abuse, or should I look into loose fitting clothing, or should I change the height / positioning of the handle bars so that I'm not forced to hug the gas tank so tightly?

Passenger Safety: I'm building up my riding skills again after 10 years of not riding at all. I am wondering what will keep my girlfriend from flying off the back if we hit a bump in the road or if I catch her off guard when I accelerate in an emergency (e.g., about to be rear-ended at a full stop). Corbin has a new seat with a back rest -- has anyone tried this particular back rest with prior year models, and is it really sturdy?

http://www.corbin.com/kawasaki/kzx1412cds.shtml
1. Change your riding position. Unless your arms are that short to where you have to sit on the gas tank it shouldn't be a problem to change. Move your ass back in the seat a little bit.

2. What will keep her from flying off is letting her learn while you go slow. Don't over do it when she is on. You shouldn't be going crazying with your girl on the back anyways, you should be just cruising and having fun. Let her learn the body positioning she needs to be in and also where her hands need to be on you or on the tank.

Also, Don't get a back seat rest. . .you might as well get a sissy bar on a harley then!
 

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When riding normally on the 14R, is the goal to figure out a way to have the legs support some of the weight by standing on the foot pegs instead of just sitting normally with most of the pressure just slightly below the family jewels?

The foot pegs are positioned back slightly on the 14R, and I have not figured out how to really stand on the pegs to support the body weight. Trying to put weight onto the pegs actually puts more weight on my hands / arms in the push-up position.

I have a pterygium in the right eye that would prevent me from using contacts, and I'm avoiding surgery to have that removed.
You don't want to constantly have to hold your weight with the legs, but you do want them to absorb the bumps. I actually have that edition of sportrider you got the article from and it compares riding your sportbike to motocross racers in one part of it. If you watch them there legs are actually probably the biggest part of their suspension system. Although you don't want to do it to that extremity, you get the point. You actually don't even have to take your ass of the seat to use your legs. This should keep your Mcnuggets from smacking the tank, at least over bumps.
 
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