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In places where detectors are illegal, how do the police detect that you have one? Do their radar guns show a signal or something? Can you get units that are undetectable? Can you hide the detector under a fairing, or do they have to be out in the open to work? Thanks (this is a hypothetical question - we all know that I would NEVER speed - yep - I always do the posted limit :nana - yessirree!) Thanks
 

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why spend money on a radar detector when you could just get a fuzz buster to totally scramble their signal. hypothetically of course!

Once a radar detector goes off in a second or 2 the cop has your speed recorded anyways.
 

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The detectors like a V1 are passive recievers only. The cops have to see one to ticket u. I do agree, from my personal experience, they are best at alertiing you to the fact u are about to get a ticket. My V1 is pretty good for the 911 but to big for the bike use.
 

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Not sure where radar detectors are illegal, but even laser jammers are legal here in Illinois, except on commercial vehicles. Regular radar bands can be detected a mile or more away, but Lidar (laser) is a point-and-shoot system, so normally when you get a laser blip, you've already been nailed. My Escort 8500 has literally saved me thousands of dollars in tickets and fines. I don't leave home without it. If you don't have some sort of detector, you best alternative is to not exceed posted speed limits. Laser jammers run about $450.

Many people leave their detectors in a tank bag. They still work, but are not readily apparent to a cop that might pull you over. The thinking is, if you get a blip and slow down, why would he pull you over anyway?
 

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Most police radar operate a high frequency that will penetrate a motorcycle's plastic bodywork. If you look, most radar detectors do not have externally mounted antennas anyways. You could probably mount behind the body work and still get plenty of use out of it.
 

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Most of the laser guns that police use will show if a laser detector or license plate jammer is being used and the vehicle that its coming from. Only the plate jammer is illegal here in Denver. Radar and radar guns or totally different that laser guns and are very old school with not many departments left using them. Being a cop myself I can tell you that if the cop can see you before you can shut the speed down or before your detector can go off then your bought and paid for. It sucks, but the technology is very up to date, not much anyone can do about it.
 

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@hammerhead....I know they are illegal in Va. I'm sure there are other places...
 

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Can anybody tell me about the fuzz buster mentioned above? Can they be detected? My worry isthe anti racing law up here. 50 K (30 mph)over and you can be charged. Say goombyes to your bike - you won't be seeing it or needing it either. Speed on 2 lanes is 80kph, and everybody does 100kph. Pass somebody at 130 (about75 mph) and that's your 50 kph - if you have an aggressive cop who charges you with racing instead of 50 over you are TOAST! Tell me more about the fuzz buster and jammers in general please!
 

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Hate to steer you away and onto Google search engine, but the first link on what you're intending to accomplish came up with a paragraph directly addressing your question on Wikipedia <here>. Here's just the one paragraph:

Radar detector detectors

The superheterodyne receiver in radar detectors has a local oscillator that radiates slightly, so it is possible to build a radar-detector detector, which detects such emissions (usually the frequency of the radar type being detected, plus about 10 MHz). The VG-2 Interceptor was the first device developed for this purpose, but has since been eclipsed by the Spectre III.[1] This form of "electronic warfare" cuts both ways - since detector-detectors use a similar superheterodyne receiver, many early "stealth" radar detectors were equipped with a radar-detector-detector-detector circuit, which shuts down the main radar receiver when the detector-detector's signal is sensed, thus preventing detection by such equipment. This technique borrows from ELINT surveillance countermeasures. In the early 1990s, BEL-Tronics, Inc. of Ontario, Canada (where radar detector use is prohibited) found that the local oscillator frequency of the detector could be altered to be out of the range of the VG-2 Interceptor. This resulted in detector manufacturers responding by changing their local oscillator frequency. Today, practically every radar detector on the market is immune to the VG-2 Interceptor.
 

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Legality

As for legality, radar detectors here in the U.S. are prohibited by state law, where applicable.*

So do your research on where you intend to use a radar detector before you buy. I've known others in our riding groups who've had bad luck with certain models, due to road vibration and theft. I don't know the models that fail, so you'll have to look that up too. But have heard plenty a story about parking the bike for lunch and coming back out to find the radar detector sprouted legs.

* Law varies from state to state, but detectors are generally legal in private vehicles under the Communications Act of 1934[20] and illegal in commercial vehicles by DOT regulation (49 CFR 392.71). Exceptions:

Illegal in all vehicles: Virginia, Washington D.C., U.S. military bases - Wikipedia
 

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Thank you gentlemen for all you help and advice. I checked with manufacturers too, and it seems the cheapest non detectable is the Beltronics STi. I will just have to save up a bit for it LOL (the chrome wheels, slip ons, powder coating etc are taking their toll on the $$$ supply LOL)
 

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Thank you gentlemen for all you help and advice. I checked with manufacturers too, and it seems the cheapest non detectable is the Beltronics STi. I will just have to save up a bit for it LOL (the chrome wheels, slip ons, powder coating etc are taking their toll on the $$$ supply LOL)
I was in a car with the Valentine. Great detector, they have a setup for bikes.
 

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escort 9500ix.the police in canada and states like virgina have a radar detector detector.in these places all you have to do is unplug it and they cannot pick it up.do not leave it plugged in and hide it they can still detect it.my buddy was in canada and he left it plugged in but had it on the floor.the police stole it from him.
 

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As an officer I can tell you I never drive with my Radar transmitting. When I see a vehicle I like I clock it. NOW if you have a lazy officer who drives around with the radar transmitting you can detect him miles away. Laser is a point and shot very cool but very costly. As for a scrambler I have never owned one or saw one can't speak on it. As someone who rides a bike I go every easy on bikes as long as you are polite and not a fucking idiot.
 

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I got popped the other day by one of those lazy ass state troopers that was driving around with his on.

I came over a hill from a 55 to a 45, and had just started to slow down when he got me at 57 mph. I got a written warning for that. Could have been worse, but still.
 
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