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Well guys, after a (almost) great solo trip of more than 1400 km on last weekend, when missing only 200 km to my home, the bike has stopped, entering to a gas station while idling. No lights, no starter motor, no nothing. Today I decided to remove the tank to see what could have been the cause of the first road fail on 12 years of my beloved ZX11, and I found this:
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I think I was lucky that the poor Motobatt doesn't explode under me, or that the failure doesn't happened in the middle of nowhere (it was a real possibility), this failure could be the result of a faulty voltage regulator that cooked the battery ??

Ps.: I forgot to say that all fuses are fine, it's all I've checked last Sunday.
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I'm not sure about that being a fusible link. It kinda looks like they have a transistor bolted to that brass plate. If someone could figure out what kind of transistor it requires, you could get it from AMAZON for less than $5.00 US, -vs- the $118 CDN they are charging.
Anyone care to venture a guess?
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I'm not sure about that being a fusible link. It kinda looks like they have a transistor bolted to that brass plate. If someone could figure out what kind of transistor it requires, you could get it from AMAZON for less than $5.00 US, -vs- the $118 CDN they are charging.
Anyone care to venture a guess?
I'm a donkey on electrics, but this tiny device sounds way expensive to me...
Hi Viktor, I'm also not an electronics guy by any means. I have just enough knowledge to be dangerous and just happen to recognize the component. What I don't know is how to figure out what the electrical values for this application are. I'm sure there is someone on the board with an electronics background that could tell us without even looking. We just have to wait until that person sees the thread...

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M.Rad.
I'm a donkey on electrics, but this tiny device sounds way expensive to me...
I'm not sure about that being a fusible link. It kinda looks like they have a transistor bolted to that brass plate. If someone could figure out what kind of transistor it requires, you could get it from AMAZON for less than $5.00 US, -vs- the $118 CDN they are charging.
Anyone care to venture a guess?
Im thinking a fusible link is a physical overload backup designed to melt & disconnect from a potential short/extended current overload . The one posted I think is just a digital version of the same thing, i.e. a Circuit breaker??
HI Blaine, yes a fusible link is designed to burn up, kind of like a cartridge fuse and thereby protect something more expensive.
What you have in that picture looks, to me at least and I could be wrong, like a transistor.
If you look at the heat shrink, you can see two of the three legs connected and going to the positive side and a single leg going to the negative. Much like the diagram in the second link, below.
But, again, my knowledge ends right there. I know it's possible but I don't know how to calculate the values for the correct transistor to use. I'm surprised that no electronics expert has chimed in yet.


" The transistor works as a variable resistor regulating its collector emitter voltage in order to maintain the output voltage constant. "

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Ahhhh, this is basically what MOPAR had for their older cars, a fusible link. A simple back up, non evasive, easy to install, extra POM points (Peace of Mind)
It's a Voltage regulator.
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Hi guys, I've barely used the bike since my last post. In fact the only ride I did was at the beginning of April, after installing a digital voltmeter, a current cut-off, an alternator quick disconnect, and of course an external universal voltage regulator. When I went to get the motorcycle, the electrician showed me how the voltage was limited, even accelerating, to 13.8/14v measuring at the battery terminals, so everything seemed OK. This was at the end of last year, after that, between holidays and the extreme hot climate I only started the bike more or less regularly, but I didn't go anywhere until, as I've said, April. But rapidly I've noted that the voltmeter reading was too high (it is far from accurate, but the difference is constant and it's useful to take as a reference), high voltage that I confirmed measuring at the battery terminals with my own electrical tester. So my nightmare started again. I did the only ride with that overvoltage on the battery and all was fine, the bike runs as good as ever, but I don't want to melt another new battery so I decided to not ride it anymore until I really fix this. In the meantime I talked to the electrician, and he gave me little support, telling me that the voltage regulator could be dead, and that this components have no warranty (...). I contacted the maker of the voltage regulator (a well reputed brand in this country) and after many emails, the engineer that has my case asked me for info about the alternator. I could only gave him the manual's pages about the alternator, so he asked me to measure the the electrical resistance of the alternator's rotor. I uninstalled it (the feat is for another post...), take it to the electrician, and he measured exactly the 4 ohms that the manual tells. So now I don't know what to do, the alternator seems OK, an eventual lack of ventilation of the voltage regulator can't be the cause of failure, because I barely rode 25 blocks from the shop to my home, and after that the high voltage readings began.
I'm really in the dark with this issue, something electrical/electronic is my worst nightmare as a bike's problem, and on top of this NOBODY WANTS TO EVEN TOUCH THE ALTERNATOR BECAUSE IT'S FROM A MOTORCYCLE !!, I can't believe that specialized shops told me that they work only with car's alternators. So I have few options, one is to assume that the voltage regulator died by natural cause, as can be with any electronic device, and install a new one and cross my fingers, and the other is keep searching a brave man who dares to deal with a motorcycle's alternator, something very difficult until now...
Any thought or advice is welcomed.
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