Gotta say I am 110% in agreement here.... the "Connie" or Concours moniker has a lot of, um, unique attributes associated with it. :lol Fortunately, I really don't think the current typical Concours pennypincher is going to flock over to this bike; I expect an entirely new generation of riders will gravitate to this machine... those that are into speed, power, and modern-day performance.
Hey there, Warchild -- we know each other already ;-)))
Gotta say I am 110% in agreement here.... the "Connie" or Concours moniker has a lot of, um, unique attributes associated with it. :lol Fortunately, I really don't think the current typical Concours pennypincher is going to flock over to this bike; I expect an entirely new generation of riders will gravitate to this machine... those that are into speed, power, and modern-day performance.
Heh.... hello, Stef, glad to see you over here... and I'm not surprised you are interested in this platform... :thumbup
I know Kawasaki is releasing it in North America as a Concours 14, but is it confirmed that it will be called the GTR 1400 overseas? Is it listed on the Kawi websites over there yet??
I know Kawasaki is releasing it in North America as a Concours 14, but is it confirmed that it will be called the GTR 1400 overseas? Is it listed on the Kawi websites over there yet??
They better not be clear-coated... 'cuz those bastid's are coming off before I even leave the showroom floor, along with those goofy-ass DOT reflectors... :rolleyes :lol
They better not be clear-coated... 'cuz those bastid's are coming off before I even leave the showroom floor, along with those goofy-ass DOT reflectors... :rolleyes :lol
I haven't bought a new bike for a while. Usually when Kawasaki releases next model year bike? June of the previous year? December?
I was looking at getting a FJR/1200GT/ST as either an addition or replacement for my 97 XX for long distance riding.
Now I think I'm going to wait for the GTR1400. Does anybody know how good is Kawasaki with their 1st model year bike
in their history?
I know it's a first year run for this particular model, but I dont consider it to be a first year run with the engine. All of this came from the ZX-14 which will have had two years in the marketplace by the time the GTR1400 is available.
I know it's a first year run for this particular model, but I dont consider it to be a first year run with the engine. All of this came from the ZX-14 which will have had two years in the marketplace by the time the GTR1400 is available.
Hello everyone ! like you I have been waiting for this bike for a long time.
As I was not satisfied with the other choices for one reason or another.
The concerns that we all share seem to be met as much as possible and I hope the end result is what we want in a true SPORT- tourer. If I have to wait I will wait .I have had a deposit on a silver abs since NOV 3 this is the bike that closest discribes what I wan't without paying the price and the service charges of a K12GT . IN a lot of way's I think it will be a more of an enjoyable bike.
Add another rider waiting for a C-14... I just sold one of my current bikes in order to pay for the yet to be seen Kawasaki. On paper, it sure looks like the ride I have been waiting (and waiting, and waiting) for.
I just wish the Kawi Mother Ship would release the final specs, release date and MSRP...
Well, the good news is that the longer it takes, the longer the money that I put in savings will draw interest. Heck, maybe I'll have enough to pay for the C-14 in cash by the time it gets here...:crackup
Hey Stef and Warchild. 04 FJR Pilot here with a new name and hopefully a new machine in the coming months. I'm really interested in this incarnation of the "Connie". Hopefully the specs will be out soon with accurate numbers on the HP and Torque. I would hope the numbers are better than the BMW since they are talking the fastest SS tourer. I might be alone here but more power is always welcomed. Not that the FJR is underpowered by any stretch but I just like bigger better faster especially if it is at close to the same price point.
I actually share all of your expectations but I've very recently decided I'll keep my FJR1300 for at least one more year for the following reasons:
1. Connie/GTR14 will be delivered (maybe) in August.:rant That's too late for me.
2. No hard data on weight/power ratio yet
3. Likelyhood of severe teething problems increases with the lack of info this close to the originally-announced release (see the K1200S affaire) :headscratch
This does it for me. Love the new bike but at this stage nothing yet tops the FJR.
BMW's K-GT (barely) does in fact but the price delta is huge and I think the bike's fugly...:angry
Sorry to hear this Teerex. As for your points:
1) with the winters we're having this shouldn't be a problem
2) I'm with you here. If the GTR doesn't have considerable more hp's than the FJR I will even consider buying the -cheaper- FJR
3) I trust Kawi in this. The very new ZX-12R and e.g. the ZZR1400 were launched without -big- problems.
I think you will change your mind once the GTR is actually here :smile
Maybe a new GTR will be a bit cheaper than a new FJR. But my guess is that one year old new FJR's (good enough for me) will be out there and will be a lot cheaper.
If I had a FJR to enjoy I would wait till next year ,but I don't I have a nomad and I have to wait for the change . I thought that at 42 it was time to slow down what a mistake.
1. Connie/GTR14 will be delivered (maybe) in August. That's too late for me.
2. No hard data on weight/power ratio yet
3. Likelyhood of severe teething problems increases with the lack of info this close to the originally-announced release (see the K1200S affaire)
1) with the winters we're having this shouldn't be a problem
2) I'm with you here. If the GTR doesn't have considerable more hp's than the FJR I will even consider buying the -cheaper- FJR
3) I trust Kawi in this. The very new ZX-12R and e.g. the ZZR1400 were launched without -big- problems.
1.) If you intend to sell an existing bike yourself, you won't get as much for it in the late summer or fall. If you have the space in your garage, go ahead and buy the C-14, but wait until next spring to sell the older bike. If you have two bikes to sell like I do (XX and FJR), then one possible strategy would be to test ride the C-14 to see if you want to buy it, and if you are convinced that you want to buy it, go ahead and sell one of the two bikes in the late summer, then wait until next spring to sell the other one and buy the C-14.
2.) The weight/power ratio is a critical consideration, but the logic, whereby it makes sense to decide at the present not to buy the bike at a later date because the information that you would need to make an informed decision at that later date is not presently available, escapes me. Unless, that is, you were trying to decide between buying something else right away vs. waiting patiently to find out whether the C-14 is even a bike that you would prefer. That is the only scenario where that logic makes sense to me, and in that scenario, it makes perfect sense. Additionally, it seems highly unlikely to me that the difference in acceleration between the FJR and the C-14 will be adequate to justify a preference of one over the other. While I am hoping that the high-speed acceleration of the C-14 will be a tad better than it is with the FJR, that isn't the principal reason that I am keen on the idea of replacing the FJR (and the XX) with the C-14. Principally, I hope (and fully expect) that the C-14's engine will be inordinately less buzzy than the FJR's engine, which I find excessive and bothersome.
3.) It does not make sense to me that the delay in delivery should be interpreted as an indication that there will be teething problems. Nor should the delay be interpreted as an indicator that there will not be teething problems. The delay just doesn't tell us anything at all about the likelihood of new-model problems. If the K1200S had 1st-year problems that were corrected in the 2nd year, that is useful information in the sense that it tells us that it is sometimes smarter to wait until the 2nd year, but it still isn't particularly relevant because (a) it is to be taken for granted that 2nd-year models will have fewer problems than 1st-year models, and (b) Kawasaki is not BMW. (I am curious to know which specific 1st-year problems that the K1200S had, were subsequently fixed such that people who waited until the 2nd year did not have those problems. The major problem that I know of, is the engine vibration, which is not likely to have been solved, and if it was solved, it evidently wasn't until after the K12GT was introduced, because the reviews invariably mentioned the excessive engine vibration. But even if by chance this has since been solved and thus has the characteristic of a "teething problem", it still isn't particularly relevant to the C-14.)
Hi All, first time posting here.
I have just talked to my local dealer and ordered my new Concourse. Expected del is End June Price is under 18000 canadian for Non ABS and 19500 for ABS. This is the same price point as a FJR or at least close. I have a Nomad and a Sprit RS now , but will be trading in the Nomad on the new bike. Has anyone else heard about pricing in your area?
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