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8K views 33 replies 17 participants last post by  fabiostar 
#1 ·
I want to run the radiator hose a different route. I was thinking about running the hose through the frame. Cutting two holes on the inside right frame.

How bad would this be to the frame?

Is there anyway to strengthen the frame?


 
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#2 ·
Do.

Not.

Cut.

That.

Frame!
 
#9 ·
any body else? I was thinking notching an inch out the right side of the frame and welding a pipe in place.
usually the first post is the correct post and it goes downhill from there, more or less. If you don't like some of the sarcastic humor, you shouldn't have posted at all. You need to accept all forms of opinions here whether or not they're serious or just joking around.
Is this the answer you wanted, Yes, cut the frame.
And here's a crazy idea, if you get into an accident and the insurance company finds out you modified the frame, they'll deny the claim and you'll end up with a salvage title.
 
#6 ·
Yes, naked show bike. The point is to hide the hose. Getting a color would only make it stand out more.


Did Shervin change his name? Take every tool you own, give them away to all of your friends, and apologize to that motorcycle!
not trying to get off topic. but if you don't have any useful information or your a straight up hater please do not post on this thread.
 
#7 · (Edited)
Could you get a custom silicon hose made and re-route it out of sight ?
Or
Use metal braided sleeving to cover the rubber hose if you are going for some bling ?
 
#8 ·
That frame is very thin aluminum...any cutting into it will weaken it dramatically. It's strength comes from it's boxed design and modifying it without a plan to give that strength back to it is a bad idea. If you're going custom on this, you might want to get in touch with a reputable custom shop and have them help design a fix.

What you are talking about doing is not for the amateur.
 
#12 ·
Just because it is salvaged doesnt mean its a better choice to hack up... Unless you plan on never riding the bike, its not safe. One hefty dip in the road and you may very well bend the frame - yes even if you weld something else in there.

You have your answer, if you aren't going to listen and you do it anyways, why the hell did you even ask?
 
#15 ·
OK, since you are building a show bike and bought a different frame and you'll never ride the bike, why would you need to ask to drill a hole or cut out the frame and then strengthen it? Wouldn't you just do it? Or don't you know what you're doing to build a show bike? From the looks of the pictures, you have a longgg way to go before that bike is show quality.
Just sayin.:smile
 
#20 ·
Thats what i figured, hay man bak awf i r tyred.
 
#23 ·
i think he should cut out the inside of the frame to save weight.
 
#25 ·
:whore

Don't forget some grommets so the frame don't chafe the hose. How you gonna hide it at the radiator? Plus cutting the frame will lighten the bike! You should do holes all the way down both sides.
 
#27 ·
wtb links
 
#28 · (Edited)


hope you're a badass TIG welding motherfucker.



i would just put a 90° on it at the radiator and run it up past the core and over the valve cover.. use metal pipe. it's pretty. any frame mods made will not only void any possible warranty that may exist, but will technically total the bike instantly if the insurance finds out.

again tho. if you go cutting into the frame you must replace it somehow with more metal. the biggest problem shevin had was that he cut square holes in the frame and never drilled relief holes at the corners or rounded them out. any time you look at a high-stress part that's been milled or worked in any way, theres a radius left at the 90. cranks are a good example of this. the fillet left at the journal edge is designed to move the moment of stress across at an angle to the 90 and keep the area from shearing AT the 90. which is where it WILL break at. i am certain if it's not 100% broken thru the whole way, theres small cracks at the corners of the holes expanding radially at a 45 on ol shervin's famous frameus.

if a pipe was to be welded in, it'd need to be a perimeter weld the entire way around it . it'd actually be really strong since you're taking what was a flat plane and adding a second dimension to it, as well as adding more filler rod.. which should be something like 5356 rod. don't weld with helium tho. use argon.
helium will burn too hot and melt the frame edges.

oh, and don't get all fuckin butthurt when ppl tell you shit like " don't cut the frame"
it's your fellow biker brothers being concerned for your safety. if we didn't give a motherfuck then we'd say "YA MAN!! cut it. you'll be perfectly fine without any of that metal in there. kawi engineers designed that frame to withstand shit like that.. you're just gonna make the engine a stressed member, just like a ducati. no worries"

if you know what you're doing and you're not a hack or noob, then you somehow gotta inform the masses that you're not a retard and are capable of pulling the shit off in the first place. i promise that if *I* posted a cut frame on here, no one would question my ability to weld that bitch back into perfection.. because that is what i do. i build bikes. i build engines. i am an experienced machinist, welder and fabricator. i owned a race shop for 5 years and my customers have alot of podium finishes to prove my knowledge. you gotta let these guys know you got what it takes too. if you've built bikes before, then post pics of m up. if you're a baller ass welder, post your question and a pic of your frame like you did, then a pic of some gangsta ass TIG welding and state "i am an experienced welder and am not looking to simply cut the frame, but replace part of it with something that will flow coolant like the old VF750 honda was set up like."

you get more bees with honey.. you get more respect with an open mind and info about yourself and skills so as to not lead ppl to believe you're a hack.

if you're lost on the whole shervin thing, just search the intrewebs a bit about it.. you'll see why ppl bring that fucking retard up.






 
#29 · (Edited)
EDIT

since i never read shit thru because i am lazy.. wtf didn't you state in the first place you bought a salvage title frame? that woulda stopped alot of the flaming right off the bat. i saw where you stated welding pipe in place but never specified what schedule.. which certainly shouldn't be less than 40. 80 would be better.

but ya. carry on dude.

worst case.. send it to me with some blueprints or detailed plans and a sketch. i have marine grade sch 80 tubing no more than 6' away from me right now dying to be welded into some fuckin bitchin project and put to use.

heres some examples of MY aluminum welding skills

89 yamaha warrior case repair


my turbo motor for my 7R. kleen air passages welded shut.


89 ninja 750 pegmount


98 9R swingarm extensions







05 636 stator cover







so, with that.. you know i can weld shit and it works. if you can do the same, then put in work son. build some shit to wow the masses.


 
#31 ·
I do not disagree, but dragging out a year-old thread is a waste of time and bandwidth. The dude already slunk off butthurt, and will probably never come back to read your sound advice. He was obviously looking for someone to cheerlead his hack-job and didn't find them here.
 
#32 ·
Since I have joined the Forum I have seen several threads where somebody asks for advise on a Mod, conversion, what have you and the feedback from the board guys ends up like in this case the right advise to NOT CUT THE FRAME......These Children that dont understand that messing with a Frame's integrity is asking for trouble. Just my soap box rant but now I know why I waited until I was older to get my ZX9r.....Youth wasted on the Young :)
 
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