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Zx10r swingarm swap into a 1999 ZX7R

New to the zx gang and doing a modernisation of the old girl, Has any one done a 2004/5 swinger into a P model and what is required to make it as easy as possible.
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This the closest thing you'll find to a write-up on the subject.

https://www.zxforums.com/forums/zx-7...n-upgrade.html

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That's what I like about you, Turbo. Instead of looking to external factors you consistently look to yourself to provide the improvements first.

"I can't corner the way I want to, I'll improve that."

"My bike feels heavy, I'll lose weight."

In a day and age where everyone's playing the blame game and looking for excuses it's refreshing to see a little discipline, determination, and self-efficacy.

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Someone help me here. What's the name of the guy on here that lives in eastern Europe, that was selling the custom spacers for this swap on Ebay? I can't find the spacers on Ebay at the moment. He was the one making the ZX10R engine swap mounts also.
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Someone help me here. What's the name of the guy on here that lives in eastern Europe, that was selling the custom spacers for this swap on Ebay? I can't find the spacers on Ebay at the moment. He was the one making the ZX10R engine swap mounts also.
I think it was Milos ??? Or maybe that was the H2 Forum. I can't remember but Milos sounds familiar.

The kit he was selling was to mount the ZX10R motor in the ZX7R chassis tho. I don't think it was a swingarm kit, but maybe I'm wrong.

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That's what I like about you, Turbo. Instead of looking to external factors you consistently look to yourself to provide the improvements first.

"I can't corner the way I want to, I'll improve that."

"My bike feels heavy, I'll lose weight."

In a day and age where everyone's playing the blame game and looking for excuses it's refreshing to see a little discipline, determination, and self-efficacy.

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I think you are correct. I just sent a PM
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New to the zx gang and doing a modernisation of the old girl, Has any one done a 2004/5 swinger into a P model and what is required to make it as easy as possible.
Fitted Milos's adapter kit to my 9rB,it's the same kit adapter as the 7rP.

You may need to use the 10r D (GenII ?) caliper and hanger I can't remember so long ago,but it's doable with just switching the OEM Kwacker parts.

I switched in a 9rC rear wheel along with the 10rGenII swinger, the wheel looks the same 5' rim for 180 but you can run a 190 on the rim but the 7r is over tyred,the 9rC rim is at least 1Kg lighter,I think the sprocket hubs are the same.

If you use the 7r rim you need to switch the bearings because of the different spindle dia/9rC spindle/wheel same as 10r spindle.

Anyway it's all about to change again with 10r (Gen IV) 3 spoke wheels forks and radial mc's
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Thanks for the info guys
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O! and the 10r swinger is around 20m shorter in dimension (swing arm pivot>wheel spindle) so improves the handling along with quicker steering.
10R uses M10 linkage/shock bolts>7r M12,check that on a kwacker parts list diagram,aliexpress was cheap for Titanium fixings no import tax for the UK

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https://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/mcy/6821698340.html Bet this guy could answer any questions.
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Frame up Chandler replica using a P frame and a 06-09 ZX10R swingarm/wheels with a rear seat, and non-superbike suspension. It has a headlight, OEM footpegs, Micron exhaust, blah, blah. Yeah, for this post, maybe he knows how to fit a ZX10R swingarm but I doubt it.

This kind of stuff pisses me off (as you can see), touting it is something special/rare. Yep he has better suspension with worse fork offset and some cool stickers he thinks nobody can get. I have a pile of them. There is no f-ing way he dropped 60 f-ing pounds swapping forks, swingarm and wheels. Maybe 15, but I doubt it.

Yep, no other bike like it in the states running a P frame claiming to be a 96 Chandler replica. Where is the Muzzy sticker on the tank? Where are the purple wheels and tail? Where is a single, true, race/kit/works part?

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The price is somewhat reasonable, at least from what I can see from a web page.
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Yep he has better suspension with worse fork offset
Hence the main reason I never committed to doing the swingarm/triples/forks modification.

Outside of the weight, the ZX7R has damn near perfect geometry. I don't understand why anyone would want to mess with those components. If anything, change the shock linkage for better traction from the rear. Even still, I've never had any traction issues with the rear on the track even with the stock linkage. Lol

I think the way to go with this bike is the Aprilia Ohlins forks, a kit swingarm if you can source one, a kit linkage, and an aftermarket shock. Then if you still have money left over, custom clamps with adjustable offset.

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That's what I like about you, Turbo. Instead of looking to external factors you consistently look to yourself to provide the improvements first.

"I can't corner the way I want to, I'll improve that."

"My bike feels heavy, I'll lose weight."

In a day and age where everyone's playing the blame game and looking for excuses it's refreshing to see a little discipline, determination, and self-efficacy.

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Only posted the bike because of the swingarm. I do think it’s kind of a cool streetbike. Replica or clone gets thrown around loosely for sure it’s like every mustang with stripes is a Shelby. Most street riders would never be able to obtain the parts to make a replica.
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