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post #1 of 9 (permalink) Old 09-20-2018, 09:52 AM Thread Starter
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Anyone swtich from ZX14R to H2SXSE

I'm thinking of trading in my 2017 ZX14R for a 2018 H2SXSE and was wondering if anyone has made this move and if so your thoughts on the H2SXSE compared to the ZX14R. I'd like to get a more upright riding position and I like the factory bags option as well as quick shifter, TFT dash, center stand and the other electronic rider aids on the H2SXSE. A quick search of cycle trader revealed several H2SXSE discounted up to 2500 dollars which makes the bike affordable. My biggest question is if the H2SX is superior enough to justify trading in the ZX14R.
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post #2 of 9 (permalink) Old 09-20-2018, 05:04 PM
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I only had an 06 ZX14 for a few months, so take that into consideration. I did not like the complete lack of wind protection on the ZX14, so I sold it quick. I had a ZX12R for a long time, and loved that bike best until I got my H2 SX SE. I love this bike much more than either of them. The positives are well publicized so I won't go there. I have about 6000 miles on my H2 SX SE, including a 1500 mile trip and a 2500 mile trip. I only have two gripes, and neither of them are showstoppers as I have figured workarounds.

1) The windscreen sucks. While it does a good job of protecting you, it shoves all the air right under the helmet. The helmet wind noise is the worst on any I bike I have ever seen. VStream has told me they are releasing their windscreens for this to manufacturing this week. No manufacturing date set yet, but these guys do a great job of getting the wind noise out of your ears.

2) The seat is too low. This is from a guy that has a 31" inseam, so if you are long legged, take time around this bike before deciding. I was soooooo cramped on my two long trips that is was painful. I found some 1.5" lowering pegs that fixed the issue for me. I bought a spare seat and plan to add some good foam to it to raise the seat to a decent level and go back to OEM pegs.

I do not understand why they made the non-SE model. The bike is so damn expensive, and the add-ons are a bargain comparatively in my opinion. I know I would not be happy without the toys.
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I do not have first hand experience but the couple of people that I know who have the SX SE love the bike and the reviews I've read are stellar.

If you're a power junkie, these bikes respond unbelievably to a flash and a mid pipe and slip on. Way over 200hp at the wheel. However, a look at the dyno charts comparing my friend's flashed SX and my flashed/full exhaust ZX-14R is quite revealing. His bike made close to 240hp compared to mine at 200hp. BUT, the power of the SX was above 10K rpm. Under that, the difference in hp and torque is significant, with the 14R well up on the SX. The windscreen issue, if any, on the 14R is easily rectified with an aftermarket screen.

That being said, I certainly wouldn't mind having an SX. Bags, more upright riding position, a little less weight, etc. But so far, with 49K miles on the 14R, it is a superstar. More comfortable than any bike I've owned (around 70 of them), including a bunch of Beemers.

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I went from the zx10 to the SX and the bike is amazing. Side by side with a 14 they look about the same size. I am not sure my brain can comprehend how fast the SX accelerates and I thought the 10 was pretty dam quick. I’d not however have a quick shifter on my 10 and that may have something to do with it.

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I do not have first hand experience but the couple of people that I know who have the SX SE love the bike and the reviews I've read are stellar.



If you're a power junkie, these bikes respond unbelievably to a flash and a mid pipe and slip on. Way over 200hp at the wheel. However, a look at the dyno charts comparing my friend's flashed SX and my flashed/full exhaust ZX-14R is quite revealing. His bike made close to 240hp compared to mine at 200hp. BUT, the power of the SX was above 10K rpm. Under that, the difference in hp and torque is significant, with the 14R well up on the SX. The windscreen issue, if any, on the 14R is easily rectified with an aftermarket screen.


Thatís crazy! I love the idea but I paid under $11k for my 2015 14R brand new with an unlimited mileage warranty. I couldnít justify paying twice as much for a more complicated and slower bike. However, if a few mods make it significantly faster, that changes the equation.

My only fear is that a flashed and supercharged engine wonít last to the ultra high mileage we pull out of our 14ís.
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I do not have first hand experience but the couple of people that I know who have the SX SE love the bike and the reviews I've read are stellar.



If you're a power junkie, these bikes respond unbelievably to a flash and a mid pipe and slip on. Way over 200hp at the wheel. However, a look at the dyno charts comparing my friend's flashed SX and my flashed/full exhaust ZX-14R is quite revealing. His bike made close to 240hp compared to mine at 200hp. BUT, the power of the SX was above 10K rpm. Under that, the difference in hp and torque is significant, with the 14R well up on the SX. The windscreen issue, if any, on the 14R is easily rectified with an aftermarket screen.


That’s crazy! I love the idea but I paid under $11k for my 2015 14R brand new with an unlimited mileage warranty. I couldn’t justify paying twice as much for a more complicated and slower bike. However, if a few mods make it significantly faster, that changes the equation.

My only fear is that a flashed and supercharged engine won’t last to the ultra high mileage we pull out of our 14’s.
We will find out. I bought mine in April and am nearing 10K miles already on my H2 SX SE. I'm finally getting ready to flash mine.
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I traded in my 2016 14R SE in for a 2018 SX/SE and love it. While i do miss my 14R, it was giving me to many issues. The power on the SX is unbelievable for a sport touring and due to being restricted to hell, it response very well to mods and tuning. Can pick up 50-80whp without a sweat.

The cruise control is my favorite thing as i have a back injury so sitting in one position for awhile gets painful. The cruise control is just like a car. I set it and can take both hands off the bars and the bike just does its own thing.

The supercharger sound is addictive and will suck up gas fast if you want to bear it and feel it. But normal cruising gets me around 4.6L/100Kms which is about 410kms worth of fuel.
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I resisted the ZX14 until my 64th yr. It seemed over-the-top, but first ride says its very comfortable, a 2006 model.

The new stuff with latest tech makes for complexity, sometimes K-I-S-S is enough.

ever try to reset an menu driven clock, versus +/- buttons?
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