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You buy the ZX14 because it's the baddest in town.
You buy the ZX12 because you're the baddest in town.

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You buy the ZX14 because it's the baddest in town.

You buy the ZX12 because you're the baddest in town.



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You buy the ZX14 because it's the baddest in town.
You buy the ZX12 because you're the baddest in town.

There ya go.
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I can actually speak to this as I’ve owned the same ZX12R since April of 2000 and my brother has owned a ZX14 since April of 2006. They’re both great bikes and if you own one and never ride the other you’ll be like a retarded kid who doesn’t know he’s retarded. You’ll be completely content and not want anything else. In reality the 12 has a tall first gear and a fairly weak clutch. The head design is supposedly much better than the 14’s. I can’t verify that. The 14 on the other hand, has a great clutch and awesome gearing right out of the box. Around town and for drag racing the 14 is a better choice stock for stock. In the twisties I believe the 12 is the better choice. It sits higher than the 14 and with the taller first gear it requires less shifting than the 14 but with the power these two put out neither requires a lot of foot work. I feel the 12 looks world’s better but that’s entirely subjective. If you buy either one you’re a winner.
The 14 will win a drag race stock for stock. The 2000 12 has no top speed restriction. The 14 has a huge aftermarket following. The 12 will require you to have a good friend who is a machinist. Both can be modified as much or as little as you want.

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I can actually speak to this as I’ve owned the same ZX12R since April of 2000 and my brother has owned a ZX14 since April of 2006. They’re both great bikes and if you own one and never ride the other you’ll be like a retarded kid who doesn’t know he’s retarded. You’ll be completely content and not want anything else. In reality the 12 has a tall first gear and a fairly weak clutch. The head design is supposedly much better than the 14’s. I can’t verify that. The 14 on the other hand, has a great clutch and awesome gearing right out of the box. Around town and for drag racing the 14 is a better choice stock for stock. In the twisties I believe the 12 is the better choice. It sits higher than the 14 and with the taller first gear it requires less shifting than the 14 but with the power these two put out neither requires a lot of foot work. I feel the 12 looks world’s better but that’s entirely subjective. If you buy either one you’re a winner.
The 14 will win a drag race stock for stock. The 2000 12 has no top speed restriction. The 14 has a huge aftermarket following. The 12 will require you to have a good friend who is a machinist. Both can be modified as much or as little as you want.

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Guys lets be clear. The 14 is rock solid. This whole thread revival was to have some fun, encourage friendly discussion, not to bash. To be clear the 14 is an amazing bike. I love it. Anyone looking to place theirs in a good home, just ask.
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And I know there is more than 6 14s on this forum.
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Noticed you were going on a long ride. Have a save trip and return.
Thanks. It should be pretty low-key. We are supposed to avoid the slab and hit the SR's.

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So which is better/faster?
So are you asking faster like 0 to 100 or top speed? Straight line or turns? I would say its all in the rider especially in the twisties.
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Personally I like the 14's handling much better compared to my old 12R. Looking at them side by side puts the 14 in Busa ugly territory.
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I know ugly. Me and this bike did not get along from day one. Rear tire blew out while on the interstate the first week and the front blew out on the interstate 2 weeks later ( Shinko's). After 800 miles I sold it.
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So which is better/faster?
Both of these bikes have way more power than 80% of the riders out there can manage. "Better", that is the subjective part. I have had both and prefered the 12. Find the one you like and don't look back as they are both fantastic bikes.

I picked up two ZX12R race engines from Muzzy when we got all the ZX7R parts. The N/A engine was good for 350hp and the Turbo engine was good for 425hp. Muzzy said the 12 could easily make as much power as the 14 even with stock displacement since the 12 head design was so much better.
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I just need a 12R to park alongside the 14.
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Well I think it's time I get something off my shoulders.

Its been awhile and I've put a lot of thought into this decision. Sometimes you put so much into a certain direction whether it's with the grain or against. All while there are alternatives readily available that would achieve the desired outcomes perhaps while consuming less resources. That is to say, there are certain makes/ models or even conditions of bikes that inescapably rise to the top. All the determination, self will, or perhaps hope may get you to the stadium but never really land you in the ball park. Unless, it's the one. The one that has in hand the pin point coordinates. Perhaps it is showroom new with a refreshing flavor. Or the one that won the glory and the celebratory train is still boarding years later.

It is through this process of realization that acceptance has surfaced and it's rising fast. It's a large puncture in a sinking ship that cannot be mended without a drydock. The acceptance to know when to hold em and when to simply abandon ship. A decision that is actually now allowing the light at the end of the tunnel to burn brighter.

This decision can no longer be just a weightless proposition. My zx-12r is now in need of a good home. A home that will provide for its maintenance, excercise, and overall well being. It is not for lack of trying. Its been there, its seen that but that's precisely when it's happiest the most.

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Well I think it's time I get something off my shoulders.

It's been awhile and I've put a lot of thought into this decision. Sometimes you put so much into a certain direction whether it's with the grain or against. All while there are alternatives readily available that would achieve the desired outcomes perhaps while consuming less resources. That is to say, there are certain makes/ models or even conditions of bikes that inescapably rise to the top. All the determination, self will, or perhaps hope may get you to the stadium but never really land you in the ball park. Unless, it's the one. The one that has in hand the pin point coordinates. Perhaps it is showroom new with a refreshing flavor. Or the one that won the glory and the celebratory train is still boarding years later.

It is through this process of realization that acceptance has surfaced and it's rising fast. It's a large puncture in a sinking ship that cannot be mended without a drydock. The acceptance to know when to hold em and when to simply abandon ship. A decision that is actually now allowing the light at the end of the tunnel to burn brighter.

This decision can no longer be just a weightless proposition. My zx-12r is now in need of a good home. A home that will provide for it's maintenance, excercise, and overall well being. It is not for lack of trying. It's been there, it's seen that but that's precisely when its happiest the most.

For your opportunity at a well cared for, finely optimized, whistler in the wind, call now.

1-800- VOTE - ZX12-R ROTM.

Call today.
Been keeping that one in the chamber for a while huh ?
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Been keeping that one in the chamber for a while huh ?
As much as I don't want to say this, I'm already getting offers
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Question? How much should I ask?
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I wonder what Chief would do? Probably burn rubber over a squid then have the sushi remains cited for reckless endangerment.
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Yeah, that's a good place to start.

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