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Old 09-11-2008, 10:30 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Exclamation 99' Restoration Progress

I decided to post up some pictures of the restoration that I've been doing for the last 2 months on my bike. Its almost done now, the bike was nearly totalled when I bought it. All the fairings have been replaced (Minus the front fender) and I just finished painting the bike. I have a packed garage with various other toys which has made fixing this bike harder than I anticipated.

Overall though, the bike is turning out good. I have a few small things left to do, but nothing major. I do have a question though...the bike has frame damage near the front left part of the gas tank due to the previous owner laying it down, how much should I be worried about this? How much damage is too much? I haven't owned a bike of my own before, and while frame damage is hardly an issue on 4 wheels, I have a feeling riding on 2 wheels may be different.


Here's a few pics of the progress...






You can see where the exhaust canister is dented along the bottom from the wreck :-( I'm in the process of acquiring a fresh one.


You can see some of the frame damage here. Dont worry...the zip ties were all temporary.


Chemically stripping the gas tank paint.


Bondo...fixing the huge dent from the previous picture.




The new base paint...


Final product, pre wet sand and polish...the bike slipped on some floor-dry over an oil spot (from another project) and fell on its right side scratching the fresh paint, before it even made it out of the garage


As of today, almost finished...I decided I can live with the scratches from the garage accident...versus repainting the fairing again.








The only other flaw is from not sanding the bondo smooth enough across where I eliminated the grab handles....I did wetsand with 2000 grit and used glazing putty to help smooth it out, but you can never sand bondo enough.
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Old 09-12-2008, 03:35 AM   #2 (permalink)
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very nice... except for that drop :( .... but may i ask what complete steps did u do to repaint it? i am wanting to actually paint mine the same color, but slap some decals on after. any info would be great, like what to get all the paint off and what paint i should use. thanks!
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Old 09-12-2008, 09:21 AM   #3 (permalink)
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very nice... except for that drop :( .... but may i ask what complete steps did u do to repaint it? i am wanting to actually paint mine the same color, but slap some decals on after. any info would be great, like what to get all the paint off and what paint i should use. thanks!

First, I did NOT paint this with conventional paints, where you have to mix and thin out the paint, and dillute some more here and there, and filter it all, and what not. I went with a premixed paint. What I used is Duplicolor (Jet Black) automotive paint, with a metal flake layer before the clear coat. Duplicolor is the cheap spray paint brand that every store has, but they actually have a fairly decent lineup of premixed (Thus faster and easier to use) auto paints that they sell at advanced auto parts stores. Here's a basic rundown of the steps I used, and ingredients..more or less...

-----------What you will need------------
1. Paint sprayer (Gun, automotive type preferred)
2. Air compressor (10 gallon capacity or more for painting large areas at one time), need to have at least a constant 40-50 psi for painting, I like to use 45psi..but it all depends on the gun.
3. Drop cloth, protective paint clothing
4. Face Masks and/or Respirators
5. Primer, Base paint, clear coat (Minimum..can use specialty layers between)
6. Paint FILTERS
7. Air/Water filter/seperator recommended for air compressor.
8. 1500 and 2000 grit WET sandpaper
9. 3M Polishing compound (Scratch remover)
10. Machine buffer, or random orbit buffer (2k rpm or below) recommended
11. Tack cloth (Lots of it)
12. Somewhere to paint thats clean, and sealed, I recommend tarping off everything to create a bubble to paint inside of. Seall off everything, including the floor and ceiling with drop cloth and seal the seams to avoid getting any dust and/or small bugs on your wet paint.

--------Before painting-----------
1. Remove the paint from any metal parts (aka gas tank) with a chemical paint stripper...Tal-Strip made by Mar-Hyde is one example of what you will need.

2. Remove any old paint from any plastic/fiberglass parts by wetsanding. Use at least an 800 grit paper and finish with at least a 1500.

3. Clean everything again (use tackcloth), rinse, and dry.
-----------painting--------------
The most important step is to wetsand and clean every piece between every layer of paint. Otherwise you will end up with a huge amount of Orange Peel (Rough bumpy surface that will not shine and will take a ton of sanding to make smooth) when you are finished painting.

1. Primer
After cleaning the pieces strain the paint and you put it in the spray guns canister, set your presssure level correctly for the gun your using, and begin to spray the primer. I usually do two coats of primer, but you may be ok doing one if it is well done. Make sure to take your time and avoid any sags or drips in the paint by maintaining a consistent distance from the parts you paint, and do not apply too much paint at one time. It is always better to take more time and paint less each time, than to paint to much at once and end up having to redo the whole project due to drips and runs in the paint. This applys to every step.

2. Let dry, Wetsand, clean, and dry, and go over with the tackcloth again.
3. Spray your Base Coat (Strain and filter before putting into gun, for every paint you use, unless its a specialty paint that notes otherwise)
4. Let dry, wetsand, clean, and dry
5. Apply any specialty coats (Metal Flake, candy coats, pearl coats, etc) Follow directions posted on their instructions very closely. (I used duplicolors "Metallic Clear")
6. Apply clear coat, at least 2-3 coats
7. Let dry, wetsand, clean again lightly with tackclotch, and dry

---------Finishing after the last layer of paint-----
Once wetsanded after the final clear coat you will have a horrible looking paint job. It will be dull and barely resemble what you expect your final product to be. The darker the color, the worse it will look. This is because wetsand causes microscopic abrasions and scratches in your paint. To finish you will need to remove these, and polish out the final layer of your clear coat. To do this...

1. Apply the polishing compound/scratch remover (Make sure its NOT a buffing compound) to your fresh paint and a little to the buffer and spread it around a small area....one or two square feet at a time.
2. Let it dry slightly to a haze...say 30 seconds to a minute...and begin to buff it.
3. Keep buffing that area making sure to move around constantly and avoid staying in one area too long. You should begin to see a shine appear.
4. Once your done buffing you should notice a huge improvement in color and shine. If not something may be wrong. Check to make sure the paint is smooth, and if not, wet sand that area, then rebuff it.
5. Go over the final product with a soft cotton diaper or similar clotch that is woven and hand buff any areas you could not reach with the machine buffer.
6. You are done. Personally I would avoid washing the bike immeadiately, and would not recommend waxing or washing for at least a couple of weeks to a month. This can be debated. You will however need to let the bike sit outside in the sun for a few hours each day to help the paint harden properly. Once this is done it should be safer to wash and wax, however the risk is all yours. I would recommend letting the bike sit outside a full day, and progressively less and less. Better safe than sorry.


Now this may seem like a huge list, and it may overwhelm you, but its really not that hard if you have all the proper tools. Its mainly just a couple of steps that you repeat a few times, and then your done...that and I'm OCD so this list is probably way to thorough. Enjoy!
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Old 09-12-2008, 10:44 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Thats what I am wanting to do with my 93 ZX7. Same as you, Super Gloss Jet Black, All over.
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Thats what I am wanting to do with my 93 ZX7. Same as you, Super Gloss Jet Black, All over.

I would recommend putting in a metal flake like I did, its hard to see in the pics. Or maybe you'd like just straight black, but I really like the grayish hues to full black colors that this bike gives off now...its pretty cool with the way it slightly changes colors. The two closeups of the front show just how many colors are mixed in with the black on this.
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Old 09-12-2008, 03:05 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I would recommend putting in a metal flake like I did, its hard to see in the pics. Or maybe you'd like just straight black, but I really like the grayish hues to full black colors that this bike gives off now...its pretty cool with the way it slightly changes colors. The two closeups of the front show just how many colors are mixed in with the black on this.
Pics of my bike are here http://www.zxforums.com/forums/zx-7r...ject-bike.html
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Old 09-25-2008, 07:36 PM   #7 (permalink)
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good how to, if you took more pics before and durring, you should post them in between the steps you posted.

whatd you use to fill the grab handles? just bondo alone?
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Old 09-26-2008, 12:41 AM   #8 (permalink)
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good how to, if you took more pics before and durring, you should post them in between the steps you posted.

whatd you use to fill the grab handles? just bondo alone?
Yea, I have a few more pics, but not too many of each step. I also am still working on finishing the bike, so expect plenty more. Theres a sweet little mod I'm doing to the windscreen, and then just a few other things. I forgot to get pics of upholstering the seats...that was a royal pain..and I wired in a manual fan switch, etc. With the grab handles I used some self sticking steel mesh backing and duct taped it from behind to make sure it wouldn't fall out as I applied bondo, then applied the bondo to the front, smoothed and applied glazing putty, then sanded 1500 to 2000 grit final and painted. Beware though, bondo is very decieving, I thought I had mine smooth as a babys bottom, but I was wrong. Sand the crap outta it along the edges where the bondo meets the fairing, thats where I had issues with the paint...otherwise its smooth.
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yea, bondo is a bitch...my tail section (right now) looks exactly like your in the first pic. now that i got a good look of what it looks like shaved i think im going to do mine tomorrow. ill probly use a metal washer behind the hole and then fill most of it with fiberglass filler front and back. i finished primering the tank and the tail section, only needs to be wetsanded. my belly pan and front fairing are a fiberglass race kit-when my headlight comes in ill be able to cut out the holes for it and finish prepping/reinforcing the front end-but thats where im at on my project...hoping itll turn out as well as yours did-too bad about that scratch.

what windscreen mod are you talking about?
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yea, bondo is a bitch...my tail section (right now) looks exactly like your in the first pic. now that i got a good look of what it looks like shaved i think im going to do mine tomorrow. ill probly use a metal washer behind the hole and then fill most of it with fiberglass filler front and back. i finished primering the tank and the tail section, only needs to be wetsanded. my belly pan and front fairing are a fiberglass race kit-when my headlight comes in ill be able to cut out the holes for it and finish prepping/reinforcing the front end-but thats where im at on my project...hoping itll turn out as well as yours did-too bad about that scratch.

what windscreen mod are you talking about?
Yeah eliminating the grab handles turned out a lot better than I thought it would. All my panels are fiberglass too, just OEM replacements. If you look at the pic of the windscreen that I already have on here, look closely at the edge, and you'll see the mod...tho you may not notice it. It looks normal, which was my intention. It does have to do with the rubber piece that goes around the edge on most aftermarket windscreens like mine. Ill post up something on here this week to show exactly what it is. Feel free to take a guess though.
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I believe it looks like a LED Strip light?
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I believe it looks like a LED Strip light?
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Ok, its not an LED light strip...but close. I found an old EL-Light strip when cleaning out my garage...basically its a wire that glows when powered..very brightly. Turns out that its green, and fits under the strip of plastic that goes over the edge of my aftermarket windscreen to smooth out the cut edge and make it less dangerous. Dunno if that makes sense, but basically I now have a green light along the leading edge of my windscreen. I'm not a huge fan of lights on vehicles, but it does look kinda cool..at least when I tested it out in my garage, I still have yet to use it while driving..doubt I ever will.
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