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06-26-2010, 06:33 PM
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Joined: Apr 2010
From: Texas
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Bike Wont Start In First Gear
Yeah pretty much what the title states. It use to start in gear but now it doesnt. Anyone know why?
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06-26-2010, 06:37 PM
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neutral safety switch
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06-26-2010, 06:52 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by uzimon
neutral safety switch
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Say what? Oo well my friend has the exact same bike and his starts in gear with the kickstand up.
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06-26-2010, 06:57 PM
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From: Lake Havasu City,AZ
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your kickstand switch is out of adjustment or bad
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06-26-2010, 08:17 PM
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From: Austin, Tx
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adjust u clutch cable..may be to tight and the clutch is not engaging and disengaging fully.
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06-26-2010, 10:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 185EZ
your kickstand switch is out of adjustment or bad
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Its definitely not a bad sensor because if i do have the stand down and i go from neutral to first itll shut off
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Originally Posted by Crack
adjust u clutch cable..may be to tight and the clutch is not engaging and disengaging fully.
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Ill give that a try
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06-27-2010, 01:05 AM
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From: Texarkana, AR
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Will it start in any other gear?
Neutral safety on mine will start any gear with clutch in only, and clutch out only in neutral. Kickstand doesn't have anything to do with starting, only engaging into gear...
Check all electrical connections for sure, if one function of the sensor stops working then I would think the other would also seeing as its on a common plug..does the bike like to idle down a lot when stopping or doesn't it seem to have drag while in gear with the clutch in..like your having to hold it back?
If so then you need to adjust the clutch cable properly till it engaged and disengages all the way.
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06-29-2010, 05:07 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MrBubbles00482
Kickstand doesn't have anything to do with starting, only engaging into gear...
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Say what? Try starting in gear with the kickstand down.
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06-29-2010, 06:57 AM
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From: Texarkana, AR
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 185EZ
Say what? Try starting in gear with the kickstand down.
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My kickstand switch could possibly be different, it would start with the stand down in gear, or go into gear with the stand down, but when starting to release the clutch any at all it would die.
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Ride- 1993 ZX6e
Vance and Hines full exhaust
Factory pro stage 1 kit (much better then dynojet IMO)
Uni filter
Cali emissions to 49 state conversion
Air Blade DB dark smoke
Spike bolt kit
Full 2002 GSXR 1000 subframe/rear end
Lowered 1.25" in front
2004 GSXR mirrors
Smoked lights/signals
2003 ZX6 Adjustable preload forks
98-99 zx6r swingarm/back half
6" stretch
14/44 gearing
Turbo in the works...
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06-29-2010, 07:00 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MrBubbles00482
My kickstand switch could possibly be different, it would start with the stand down in gear, or go into gear with the stand down, but when starting to release the clutch any at all it would die.
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This is a key sign that it is messed up and f.g.a.s. Give it a good fixin' and you'll be good to go!
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06-29-2010, 07:29 AM
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If it wont start in gear with the clutch pulled, the problem is probably the switch on the clutch lever. On mine I was able to carefully disassemble the switch and clean the contacts and it works fine now. If you try this be careful as there are some tiny little springs in there. Of course you could just buy a new one. If you clean it be sure to lube it up with some good electric grease. The contacts are all kinda exposed to the elements so some grease is a good idea.
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06-29-2010, 12:22 PM
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From: Cole Harbour, Nova Scotia
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I have a friend that had the same issue with an 07 ZX6R. I noticed that he had aftermarket levers. The levers were set so close to the grip that the switch was not being triggered. He adjusted the lever and it was fine. So, it could be your clutch cable adjustment.
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06-29-2010, 12:34 PM
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Mine won't start in gear, I just thought that's how it was supposed to be. I'll have to check lever adjustment when I get home.
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06-29-2010, 04:30 PM
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From: eugene
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there is a switch in your clutch that goes out often in many bikes.
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06-29-2010, 04:57 PM
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Hope you get the problem fixed.
Just a question though, whyTF are you guys concerned with being able to start the bike in gear anyway? Why not put it in neutral? Do you guys sit on your bike, holding the clutch in, waiting for the oil to circulate and warm up?
I must've missed the post that explained why starting the bike in gear and sitting there with the clutch in, made sense.
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06-29-2010, 07:12 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rrzxter
Hope you get the problem fixed.
Just a question though, whyTF are you guys concerned with being able to start the bike in gear anyway? Why not put it in neutral? Do you guys sit on your bike, holding the clutch in, waiting for the oil to circulate and warm up?
I must've missed the post that explained why starting the bike in gear and sitting there with the clutch in, made sense.
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i wasn't actually worried about it, but it would come in handy if my dumb ass stalls it :)
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07-02-2010, 07:41 AM
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From: Texas
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Yep. I mean i get lazy sometimes and ill stall it on accident so i would like it in a situation like that. Having to brake put your foot down put it in neutral then start is kinda dangerous.
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