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Old 02-12-2012, 06:32 PM   #1 (permalink)
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2010 zx14 vs. 2012 zx14r

Okay currently have a Yamaha fz6r. It was my first bike and I learned how to ride on it. However I am almost 6 ft and 230 lbs. Seems like the 600cc just struggles 7000rpm to go 70mph. I would like a more comfortable bike with more power. Sat on a 2010 and it was great, and it looks like you can put bar risers on pretty easy. Main question comes down to major differences between buy a leftover 2010 at a great deal or getting a brand new 2012. I know the new bike comes with traction control and I am pretty sure the 2010 doesn't.
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Old 02-12-2012, 07:02 PM   #2 (permalink)
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excellent i would get the 2012, have you riden a zx14 before, i never have owned a gsxr-750 and their is a big difference, good luck on what you get, were is your shop located, if you are near by and you need to look at a SE ZX14 08, you can see mine if you are in the area
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Old 02-12-2012, 07:45 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Hey Dude.. The Question is do you want the strongest production HyperBike made in the year 2010.. or do you want " The " Strongest Production HyperBike ever made? Either way, You get the Brut Force that is the ZX-14...
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Old 02-12-2012, 08:08 PM   #4 (permalink)
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excellent i would get the 2012, have you riden a zx14 before, i never have owned a gsxr-750 and their is a big difference, good luck on what you get, were is your shop located, if you are near by and you need to look at a SE ZX14 08, you can see mine if you are in the area
Never rode any bike aside from my fz6r and I bought that without a test ride. However my next bike I will ride before I buy because I am spending more and want something to keep for years. Just waiting for the weather to be nicer. Shop is about 20 mins from buffalo,ny

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Hey Dude.. The Question is do you want the strongest production HyperBike made in the year 2010.. or do you want " The " Strongest Production HyperBike ever made? Either way, You get the Brut Force that is the ZX-14...
Yeah kind of got that the new 14r makes more power than the 2010 and is a good amount faster. I am not looking for ultra speed (don't think I have been much over 100 mph on my current bike) but I was wondering if the new bike will be more controllable with the ktrac traction control in case I ever want to hit it. How are the 2010s without traction control?
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Old 02-12-2012, 10:13 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Traction control would help on wet roads or make the bike more launchable ( although slower..) in a 1/4 mile sprint... But if every now and then you want to " Punch It " either HyperBike will do just fine.. A bone stock ZX-14 will swing past 100 mph like your 600 class bike swings past 60 mph...
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Old 02-13-2012, 01:13 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Have an 08 here and will have gobs more torque and power than what you have. Very easy to control but fast is fast. Things happen much much quicker and the bike will be so much quicker than a 6 that you might not realize just how much so as the 14 does it so easily with very little drama. If you want to roll hard into the 14's midrange, it's best to be already thinking about slowing -anywhere other than a wide open highway. It can truly blur scenery and narrow the road. TC would be welcomed as it's so easy to access the 14's torque but probably might be more reserved with right wrist in low traction or damp conditions. Haven't riden the 2012 but from what I gather, is more refined, tighter feeling and of course, faster. For me, suspension set up and tires made huge difference. Hard to beat the deals on past years. The 2012 is superior (from what I've read and by sitting on one) than previous models in every way, imo, except value. That's a tougher call and I couldn't help ya there... I've found on my 08, it's never about wanting or trying for more go. It's always about managing speed and distance and that a conscious effort must always be made to keep the mind in front of the bike. Any of the 14's should satisfy your desire for increased power and torque for a while....
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Old 02-13-2012, 08:37 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I'm facing the same question. I went to my dealer to look at the new 2012 model and I can get a 2010 that is also a new bike (old stock) for about 3,000 to 4,000 dollars cheaper. I currently ride a triumph rocket 3 and sold my Busa a couple of years back. I would love to hear from someone that has ridden both the 10 and 12 models to see if there is 3,000 dolls of difference in them.

I sat on both, and I like the 2012 better, but it is hard to justify the difference in price.
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Old 02-13-2012, 08:47 AM   #8 (permalink)
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if you have the money for the new one i'd say do it. but if you're just looking to cruise around and just enjoy the scenery then get the older one. they are both land missiles, and apart from the traction control on the new one there isn't a world of difference i feel. im sure its a lot faster but not everyone cares about topping the bike out everywhere they ride. traction control is nice though, i just put it on my gsxr 1000 and i have much more confidence going fast or in slippery situations.
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Old 02-13-2012, 09:22 AM   #9 (permalink)
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If you're paying cash I'd take the 2010, if not see if the difference in monthly payment is palatable or is the savings better spent on something else like fuel and insurance.
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Old 02-13-2012, 10:20 AM   #10 (permalink)
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I payed cash for my 09 in 09.$10,200 without taxes and plate.I wanted a 2012 until I read your post,With my 4-2-1 Brocks pipe flies out PCV with Brocks map and 16/43 gearing it's a bear.Nor sure if the new one is any quicker.Any I never used the power of this one.Only have 5700 miles.I think I'll get a custom map and put the 41 sprocket on for the drag strip.Thanx for giving me something to think about.
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Old 02-13-2012, 02:36 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Okay currently have a Yamaha fz6r. It was my first bike and I learned how to ride on it. However I am almost 6 ft and 230 lbs. Seems like the 600cc just struggles 7000rpm to go 70mph. I would like a more comfortable bike with more power. Sat on a 2010 and it was great, and it looks like you can put bar risers on pretty easy. Main question comes down to major differences between buy a leftover 2010 at a great deal or getting a brand new 2012. I know the new bike comes with traction control and I am pretty sure the 2010 doesn't.
What type of riding do you do? If you're just looking for a something faster than your FZ6R and more comfortable, there's dozens of bikes that would fit the bill. FZ1 perhaps?
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Never rode any bike aside from my fz6r and I bought that without a test ride. However my next bike I will ride before I buy because I am spending more and want something to keep for years. Just waiting for the weather to be nicer. Shop is about 20 mins from buffalo,ny



Yeah kind of got that the new 14r makes more power than the 2010 and is a good amount faster. I am not looking for ultra speed (don't think I have been much over 100 mph on my current bike) but I was wondering if the new bike will be more controllable with the ktrac traction control in case I ever want to hit it. How are the 2010s without traction control?
Based on the second paragraph above, I would recommend the 2010 bike. Comfort wise, the two bikes will be alike. Speed wise, the 14R has more, but it appears that's not what you are looking for. So I think it boils down to cost and ktrac comparison. You can probably save $4k with the 2010 model. And for ktrac, just shift up one or two gears and use the poor man's traction control. Then shift back down two gears to turn it off.
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Old 02-13-2012, 03:56 PM   #13 (permalink)
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It's all about your budget.
If you can afford the new bike, buy it. I have never heard anyone regretting buying the latest and greatest. You will save a few thousand by buying the '10 model. I happen to like the looks of the new model much better. Only you will be able to say what's best for you.
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What type of riding do you do? If you're just looking for a something faster than your FZ6R and more comfortable, there's dozens of bikes that would fit the bill. FZ1 perhaps?
Well I mainly use the bike to commute and have fun on the weekends just riding to ride. Don't really take corners fast or aggressive. Thought about the fz1 but like the look of full fairing and kind of want traction control or some sort of abs. I would maybe like to try a more aggressive riding stance than my fz6r but not quite super sport aggressive.
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Well I mainly use the bike to commute and have fun on the weekends just riding to ride. Don't really take corners fast or aggressive. Thought about the fz1 but like the look of full fairing and kind of want traction control or some sort of abs. I would maybe like to try a more aggressive riding stance than my fz6r but not quite super sport aggressive.
I'd buy a ZX10 then, the power of a 14 may well be wasted, I have a 12R and a 10R and I cannot explore the power of my 12 on public roads without the risk of arrest or death and I live in socal. My 10 is great, fast, lighter and much more fun for the type of driving I do, commuting, and weekend rides plus it's gets decent gas mileage, now my 12R??? Get ready to pour fuel down the drain at prodigious rates . I love middle weight bikes but for my only bike I wouldn't want a 600 per se, that's why I have a Gix 750, had a Daytona 675 that I liked a lot but find the 750 perfect all around bike for me.
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I'd buy a ZX10 then, the power of a 14 may well be wasted, I have a 12R and a 10R and I cannot explore the power of my 12 on public roads without the risk of arrest or death and I live in socal. My 10 is great, fast, lighter and much more fun for the type of driving I do, commuting, and weekend rides plus it's gets decent gas mileage, now my 12R??? Get ready to pour fuel down the drain at prodigious rates . I love middle weight bikes but for my only bike I wouldn't want a 600 per se, that's why I have a Gix 750, had a Daytona 675 that I liked a lot but find the 750 perfect all around bike for me.
Yeah like I said not looking for the ultra aggressive seating position of a supersport (zx10r)
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Yeah like I said not looking for the ultra aggressive seating position of a supersport (zx10r)
If you dn't buy a '12 any year ZX-14 is a monster. Just buy under 5K miles, mint.

I've got an '06 and I love it. Powerful, excellent suspension, handling, awesome brakes and an excellent long distance m/c. $5500 -$6,000 will get you an under 5k mint '06-'07bike and a smidge more an '08/'09.
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The FZ6 is a nice bike. It is very easy to ride, and light in the corners. The 14 is one heck of a leap forward in power and performance. Either year will blow your socks off, and have way more performance than you are capable of using (no offense - but you'll see what I mean). No matter which one you get, treat it with RESPECT! Listen to OBI Phat phil Wan above. He is correct. I love my 14 to death - it is a truly awesome machine!! Just - don't underestimate it, or overestimate you. Peace bro
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The FZ6 is a nice bike. It is very easy to ride, and light in the corners. The 14 is one heck of a leap forward in power and performance. Either year will blow your socks off, and have way more performance than you are capable of using (no offense - but you'll see what I mean). No matter which one you get, treat it with RESPECT! Listen to OBI Phat phil Wan above. He is correct. I love my 14 to death - it is a truly awesome machine!! Just - don't underestimate it, or overestimate you. Peace bro
Trust me I fully know I am not capable, because I have 1/2" chicken strips on my FZ6R and haven't been much over 100mph, maybe 102 or 103 once or twice. I just want a bigger more comfortable bike that can cruise at highway speeds 70-75 mph with less buzz and rpm. I am the guy who could drive around a turbocharger Busa and never race anyone.
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I had a 2003 Z1000.Which was on the order of the FZ-1 but a little more torquey.It would do 160.I ran 11.66 @120.Should of ran faster but it was a wheelie monster.Now when I got my Ninja no comparison.The midrange was so much more even more then my ZRX1200.This bike compares with nothing.No I haven't had the displeasure of riding the busa.I sat on one and that was like sitting on a honda.
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