Hit 200 MPH

[Somefun]

Ok guys I was out the other day and really in the morning and everything felt right so I opened her up she pulled like a freight train 150, 160, 170 got to 180 n backed down the hit it again and she pulled hard back up to 185! At this point I ran out of road n had to back it down.....So my question is how fast with the normal mods n the limiter off will they run with a 185lbs rider? Whatcha guys think?

[185EZ]

Not sure but I like 185.

[JBearSVT]

Where are you in CT? There aren't too many Monster 14's around here, but I just saw one today and I'd swear that was the helmet too. Or maybe it was yesterday...

Oh, and, as for your sig- the answer is yes.

[185EZ]

Not to bust your bubble but have you had your speedo checked for accuracy? Most have been off by 7 to as much as 10% high. Not sure if the maps can correct for that.

[Somefun]

Originally Posted by JBearSVT

Where are you in CT? There aren't too many Monster 14's around here, but I just saw one today and I'd swear that was the helmet too. Or maybe it was yesterday...

Oh, and, as for your sig- the answer is yes.

I'm from Orange CT. I've had the bike about four months n I can't stay off it!!! What a ride!!! Have 4400 miles on her....

[Somefun]

Originally Posted by JBearSVT

Where are you in CT? There aren't too many Monster 14's around here, but I just saw one today and I'd swear that was the helmet too. Or maybe it was yesterday...

Oh, and, as for your sig- the answer is yes.

I've had it checked n corrected with the healer.

[jollyroger]

My bike-GPS's and speedohealed-flies out-custom map-16/42 gearing..........Just above 180 mph.Not the best of weather conditions either at the time-so......... ...done without present mods(TiForce slip-ons,upgraded map).I'm 175 with gear,maybe 180.I've been told(by an "expert") my bike will not hit 200.I of course think this is BS.With stock gearing,perhaps over stock gearing,I'm fairly confident she'll hit 200.This next season coming up-hmmmmm....?I already hit 186 with the factory stock gearing,without the aftermarket pipes on there(speedohealed and GPS'd).And the only thing holding her back was the limiter-and loss of road.

[Case]

I belive that finding that last few mph to 200mph is the hard bit,its about aerodynamics and power.pretty doubtful you would do it on a fairly stock ZZR1400.Have a look at 200mph.org,its a British site for people trying to achieve that exact thing,they do flyers on some very seriously tuned kit at airfields and there's more to it than you would think.

[Somefun]

I'm sure it's not an easy task but ma this thing was still pulling like a freight train at 180 to 185....does the speed limiter come on only in sixth gear? At some point I have this crazy notion that I want to hit 200 MPH in or on something....(With Wheels) I was going to head to a place in FL that for $4,000.00 they let you drive one of the exotic cars bring it to just over 200. I might as well save my cash and do it on my bike. lol If I can monkey up enough sack!! lol

[Mike P]

Instead of bench racing go to a land speed event and find out.

[Somefun]

Originally Posted by Mike P

Instead of bench racing go to a land speed event and find out.

I hear you but when I get there I want to make sure I can hit the number.....

[Case]

Originally Posted by Somefun

I'm sure it's not an easy task but ma this thing was still pulling like a freight train at 180 to 185....does the speed limiter come on only in sixth gear? At some point I have this crazy notion that I want to hit 200 MPH in or on something....(With Wheels) I was going to head to a place in FL that for $4,000.00 they let you drive one of the exotic cars bring it to just over 200. I might as well save my cash and do it on my bike. lol If I can monkey up enough sack!! lol

I've been reliably informed that a Honda Blackbird with NOS will stand a good chance of cracking 200mph,thats with the rider getting the most out of it by having good body position,increased tire pressure to reduce rolling resistance and various other bits and pieces.With that being the case it should be fairly straightforward with a ZZR14,with more BHP,more development and better aerodynamics to do the same.There has to be places in the US that run these kind of topspeed events where you can give it a shot,if we can do it on our tiny island!I say give it a go,the only reason i'm not hunting the double ton is because I still owe a years finance on my ZX6R and it's not exactly a top speed bike!

[Speedy14]

Originally Posted by Somefun

Ok guys I was out the other day and really in the morning and everything felt right so I opened her up she pulled like a freight train 150, 160, 170 got to 180 n backed down the hit it again and she pulled hard back up to 185! At this point I ran out of road n had to back it down.....So my question is how fast with the normal mods n the limiter off will they run with a 185lbs rider? Whatcha guys think?

I'm 6'5'' weight about 240 lbs (with full leathers and gear)..(not what you would call aerodynamic in any strech of the imagination LOL) and I hit a confirmed 188.265 last March on my 2007 ZX14 at the Tx Mile running a 16 tooth countershaft sprocket and Yoshi slipons with a power commander III USB and a decent map. I hit the mile marker in 6th gear at 10,900 rpm (and still had some left before I would have hit the limiter @ around 11,500 rpm).. With the stock gear (17 tooth) I imagine in a longer run I could hit at least 195 to 198.. To be fair we did have great conditions with ambient temperature at about 55 degrees and a tail wind. but the bike ran the mile and was clocked at 188.265 and I still had more left in it. ( A smaller lighter rider could have gone much faster. that day)
At the most recent Tx Mile in October the best I could get was a 180.243 mph but I was having fueling / fuel map issues. Plus it was hot and humid with an annowing head/side wind most of the weekend.
Derestricted the 14 can go 200 with just a few tweaks and enough realestate to get up to speed.

<Speedy><

[BlueBomber14]

Originally Posted by Case

I've been reliably informed that a Honda Blackbird with NOS will stand a good chance of cracking 200mph,thats with the rider getting the most out of it by having good body position,increased tire pressure to reduce rolling resistance and various other bits and pieces.With that being the case it should be fairly straightforward with a ZZR14,with more BHP,more development and better aerodynamics to do the same.There has to be places in the US that run these kind of topspeed events where you can give it a shot,if we can do it on our tiny island!I say give it a go,the only reason i'm not hunting the double ton is because I still owe a years finance on my ZX6R and it's not exactly a top speed bike!

"THE TEXAS MILE" you run what you brung (pass tech) and if you go 200 or better you get a jacket or you used to????


Thats my goal next year or so if I can get some more mods done.

[jollyroger]

I'm thinkin you're right there speedy.I'm 175,maybe 180 with gear.Mine is 16/42 now-great map(hasn't been high speed tested yet).I couldn't get her to pull any further than 180 on my last run here(cross wind going,felt a tad unstable so I just cranked er to the 180 mark for several seconds-she was not going any faster,so..........).But come spring-gonna regear back to stock-maybe throw a larger(but not too much)gear on the rear-and go for it again.She's GPS'd with a Speedohealer.The indicated speed is correct.Only problem-if I set my speedohealer to 99%,it will bypass the limiter totally-BUT,my indicated speed will be way low.I don't know how I could record the top speed?With a GPS?-but I don't know if any have a memory function-any ideas?I'm fairly sure my baby will do 200.(Ti Force slips,no flies,4 degree advance-excellent map)(guess I could do it on 1/4 tank of gas as well)(for weight's sake?).....went to the Texas Mile website-you gotta have a steering damper on there to run....NO texas Mile for me!!!No JACKET either-course,ya get to PAY for yer "special" t-shirt sayin ya went 200...............Speedy hit a confirmed 188+...with a 16 up front and 240 approximate weight.10,900-still had some to go.I'm pretty well convinced a 17 combo will get us there,weather permitting.If GOD and I are the only one's that ever know-that's fine with me!!!!!

[bobk]

Well guys i'm going through the same drill right now and I can tell you it isn't easy to get there. All this talk about it has more in it, it was still pulling is just a bunch of crap. Until you run 200mph on a GPS you haven't gone 200mph. My bike had Muzzy full exhaust, Power Commander good map and I'm only 160lbs and couldn't get past 186mph GPS with the Speed O Healer turned way down. I have now done some top end work changed gearing (1 tooth up in rear) and went 195mph and couldn't hit the limiter. Long story short the motor doesn't have enough HP stock to hit 200mph and that is all there is to it. So if you want to go that fast and I do and will in the near future you have to be willing to spend some money get someone that knows a thing or two about setting world top speed records (thanks Ace Performance) and modify the bike to get there. I should have done what I need to do in the next two weeks and will let you know. Good luck to all those that want to get there as that is a magic number.

[185EZ]

Originally Posted by jollyroger

I don't know how I could record the top speed?With a GPS?-but I don't know if any have a memory function-any ideas?

Most (all?) gps will have a max speed indicator.

[Somefun]

Originally Posted by bobk

Well guys i'm going through the same drill right now and I can tell you it isn't easy to get there. All this talk about it has more in it, it was still pulling is just a bunch of crap. Until you run 200mph on a GPS you haven't gone 200mph. My bike had Muzzy full exhaust, Power Commander good map and I'm only 160lbs and couldn't get past 186mph GPS with the Speed O Healer turned way down. I have now done some top end work changed gearing (1 tooth up in rear) and went 195mph and couldn't hit the limiter. Long story short the motor doesn't have enough HP stock to hit 200mph and that is all there is to it. So if you want to go that fast and I do and will in the near future you have to be willing to spend some money get someone that knows a thing or two about setting world top speed records (thanks Ace Performance) and modify the bike to get there. I should have done what I need to do in the next two weeks and will let you know. Good luck to all those that want to get there as that is a magic number.

What are they doing to your motor? What did you have for mods just the full muzzy?

[bobk]

Originally Posted by Somefun

What are they doing to your motor? What did you have for mods just the full muzzy?

I'm seriously not trying to be a jerk off here but those are things that are between me and Sal at Ace and he doesn't like information out there that he has spent countless days and years learning unless you become his customer. Suffice it to say that his Stage 1 kit with a few tweaks can do the job.

[Speedy14]

Originally Posted by bobk

Well guys i'm going through the same drill right now and I can tell you it isn't easy to get there. All this talk about it has more in it, it was still pulling is just a bunch of crap. Until you run 200mph on a GPS you haven't gone 200mph. My bike had Muzzy full exhaust, Power Commander good map and I'm only 160lbs and couldn't get past 186mph GPS with the Speed O Healer turned way down. I have now done some top end work changed gearing (1 tooth up in rear) and went 195mph and couldn't hit the limiter. Long story short the motor doesn't have enough HP stock to hit 200mph and that is all there is to it. So if you want to go that fast and I do and will in the near future you have to be willing to spend some money get someone that knows a thing or two about setting world top speed records (thanks Ace Performance) and modify the bike to get there. I should have done what I need to do in the next two weeks and will let you know. Good luck to all those that want to get there as that is a magic number.

BOBK

My bike is stock internally with Yoshimura slipons, A GiPro TRE, and a 16 tooth front sprocket.. Rear is a stock 41 tooth.. I ran 188.265 according to the Texas Mile clocks.. I use a Yellow Box (same basic thing as a SpeedoHealer) I set it to read that I am going 16% slower than actual speed so the speedometer will show slower speed My sppedo shows a slower speed running the mile ( but the time clocks do not lie!) When a stock bike hits 187 on the speedometer it will cause the speed limiter to kick in and the bike will stop pulling.. Like most bikes, the stock speedometer is very optimstic When I first ran without adjusting the Yellow Box my speedo showed appx. 191..My actual time was a 176 mph! So you cannot go by the speedo on the street.. Maybe your bike is just not producing the same horsepower as some of the others bikes? Mine was recently dynoed by Johnny Cheese in Austin and it was at 165 hp at the rear..After his map it was putting out 174 REAL hp at the rear.. When I ran the mile I had an old map that GPW had given me when I bought the PCMIII and pipes from him back in 2007... It was running REAL rich but I still managed a 188.265 with my size and weight.
(6'5'240 lbs in full leathers.) If you are running a 16/42 combination that may be your problem.. You are running out of gear. At what rpm were you at when your bike hit 185 and stopped pulling? The ZX14 is very capable of running at 200 with no internal mods or power adders assuming you have enough distance to build up speed.. To run the mile and hit 200 though you will need more H/p to hit 200. But if you are smaller and lighter than me you should be going faster when you get it dialed in. Good Luck PS.. Go fast on the track The street is no place to be going that speed! <Speedy><