Muzzy Slotted Timing Advancer : Kawasaki ZX Forums: Kawasaki Ninja Forum

Somefun · 11-01-2009, 06:22 AM

Hey does anyone here have the Muzzy timing wheel? I was thinking of getting one but want to see if you notice a difference? Also thinking of adding the Muzzy velocity stacks.

jollyroger · 11-01-2009, 01:10 PM

Yes-I've got one-set 4 degrees advance(one line only)Use Blue loctite on the allens.It will give er more pop.

1882 · 11-01-2009, 01:55 PM

Can't speak for the advancer but the stacks will give you a few hp, I love mine. Get the midrange ones, not the top end ones.

Somefun · 11-01-2009, 02:33 PM

Nice!!!! I'm gonna do both the go back to the dyno and make sure she's just right!!!!

1882 · 11-01-2009, 05:35 PM

If you have the PCV the timing can be advanced through it, no need for the key, just get the stacks. Also, the Muzzy M10 can will lay down better dyno numbers than the traditional can but sine you already heve a can the price would be hard to justify.

Somefun · 11-01-2009, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by 1882

If you have the PCV the timing can be advanced through it, no need for the key, just get the stacks. Also, the Muzzy M10 can will lay down better dyno numbers than the traditional can but sine you already heve a can the price would be hard to justify.

R you sure you can advance the timing with the PCV? I didn't see any where that showed timing adjustments.....

1882 · 11-01-2009, 06:03 PM

Yeah, that's the main upgrade from the PCIII to the V is the ignition adjustment ability along with the Auto Tune compatability.

1882 · 11-01-2009, 06:13 PM

Hold on, I may have spoken a bit prematurely. I know for a fact that the PCV for my Polaris 850 quad adjusts timing so I assumed this was a feature for all PCV's across the board. I might be wrong on this one, I'll poke around & find out for sure. Anyone else know for certain?

Somefun · 11-01-2009, 06:16 PM

I'm thinking it's fuel only.

1882 · 11-01-2009, 06:20 PM

I think you're right. Looks like you need the DynoJet Ignition Module in this case. It is model specific as to which bikes benefit from timing adjustability. Harley Davidsons have the adjustability built in for example. Certainly no justification to go out & buy a Hog though!

Somefun · 11-02-2009, 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by 1882

I think you're right. Looks like you need the DynoJet Ignition Module in this case. It is model specific as to which bikes benefit from timing adjustability. Harley Davidsons have the adjustability built in for example. Certainly no justification to go out & buy a Hog though!

You’re right on that one! Not unless they are having a three for the price of one sale! lol Well I ordered the stacks n the timing wheel they should be in this week. I'm going to install them then bring it to my tuner. It will be interesting to see how much power I make with them. My tuner has my Dyno results from my last visit so we can compare..

1882 · 11-02-2009, 05:07 PM

Man I'm really looking forward to the results! I'm going to take a guess you'll gain 6-7 at the wheel. Any other takers? Also make sure you fill her up with 93 to take advantage of the added timimg!

Somefun · 11-03-2009, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by 1882

Man I'm really looking forward to the results! I'm going to take a guess you'll gain 6-7 at the wheel. Any other takers? Also make sure you fill her up with 93 to take advantage of the added timimg!

Just talked to the place I bought them from and I won't see the parts till next week!

them.... man I need some mods for the weekend!

dogszzr · 11-08-2009, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Somefun

Just talked to the place I bought them from and I won't see the parts till next week!

them.... man I need some mods for the weekend!

Let me know how it works out. Thinking bout getting an advancer too. Where did you order it from?

Somefun · 11-09-2009, 02:32 AM

I got it from Schnitz Motorsports that and the stacks should be in this Wednesday...then its off to the dyno to see what she's got!!

1882 · 11-09-2009, 07:32 PM

Somefun · 11-10-2009, 05:32 PM

Well its official my parts come in tomorrow and I'm like a collage kid waiting for the pizza delivery guy after smoking a fatty!!! I can't help it! Something about taking a machine from stock to make it the best it can be (for you own likes) drives me!!!! I mean this thing is missal and needs absolute no more power but what the hell gotta do it cuz its there!!!!

Somefun · 11-12-2009, 02:54 AM

Well the parts came in and so far I got the stack in. They were kind of a pain in the ass...Just have to install the timing wheel....As anyone every done this? How much did you advance it? I was thinking 3 degrees.

jollyroger · 11-12-2009, 06:45 AM

Remove lower right fairing.Remove ignition cover(bike on KICKSTAND).Hold rear brake.Remove timing wheel bolt(counterclockwise to loosen).Install new advancer,allens facing out.Tighten advancer bolt to specified torque(holding brake pedal).Loosen allens,turn outer wheel ONE line ONLY in the direction of etched arrow(off of center etched line).Blue locktite allens-tighten down(be cautious of stripping them by overtightening!If you remove them completely,be careful to get them STRAIGHT back in -and you may want to put a small rag under the advancer there in case one pops off of your allen wrench).Recheck marks on wheel.Clean gasket surfaces of any debris.Leave rubber gasket installed in it's groove.Use high temp copper silicone to seal cover plate(apply "lightly" around cover surface-wipe off any overlap BEFORE installing cover).Make sure the two metal wire holder tabs are installed OUTSIDE of the cover(not between the cover and housing)Tighten bolts crisscross pattern with final tightening in a circle(DO NOT STRIP!!).Let sit for a while.Clean off any silicone sealant around mating surface.Reinstall lower fairing....you're done!Enjoy!!

Check for oil seeps at least once during next ride...ONE LINE ONLY!!!That's 4 degrees.Anywhere in between the 1st line and the center line will work,but true 4 degrees(recommended)is at one line only.

Somefun · 11-12-2009, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by jollyroger

Remove lower right fairing.Remove ignition cover(bike on KICKSTAND).Hold rear brake.Remove timing wheel bolt(counterclockwise to loosen).Install new advancer,allens facing out.Tighten advancer bolt to specified torque(holding brake pedal).Loosen allens,turn outer wheel ONE line ONLY in the direction of etched arrow(off of center etched line).Blue locktite allens-tighten down(be cautious of stripping them by overtightening!If you remove them completely,be careful to get them STRAIGHT back in -and you may want to put a small rag under the advancer there in case one pops off of your allen wrench).Recheck marks on wheel.Clean gasket surfaces of any debris.Leave rubber gasket installed in it's groove.Use high temp copper silicone to seal cover plate(apply "lightly" around cover surface-wipe off any overlap BEFORE installing cover).Make sure the two metal wire holder tabs are installed OUTSIDE of the cover(not between the cover and housing)Tighten bolts crisscross pattern with final tightening in a circle(DO NOT STRIP!!).Let sit for a while.Clean off any silicone sealant around mating surface.Reinstall lower fairing....you're done!Enjoy!!

Check for oil seeps at least once during next ride...ONE LINE ONLY!!!That's 4 degrees.Anywhere in between the 1st line and the center line will work,but true 4 degrees(recommended)is at one line only.

JollyR thanks so much great post....I put the stacks in last night and hope to get in the garage tonight to get the timing wheel done... I'd like to get to the dyno Tuesday if I can.