ZX14 RWHP and TORQUE Dyno Posts

[r1 daveone]

Well ladies and gentlemen I wanted to compare numbers with the rest of our forum members with specific info on performance mods,fuel and milage on the vehicles when taken to the dyno and current temperature if remembered and please no hyping on the numbers let's be real and honest.
Well I took my baby in on Wednesday to the dyno with 465 miles on the machine running pump gas 93 octane and a temp of 78 degrees, I have a full muzzys M14 megaphone exhaust system, custom mapped power comander and a BMC race filter on the bike the numbers I got were 182.7 RWHP and 110.9 TORQUE with no ram air.

[madmax2295]

nice

[ZuluNinja]

whad'ya mean no ram air? u took off the guides?

[LowCel]

Originally Posted by ZuluNinja

whad'ya mean no ram air? u took off the guides?

While setting on the dyno there is no air being forced through the ram air unless there are fans attached to it.

[BlueBomber14]

192RWHP and 117 ftlbs. (without forced air) the fan was broken so we waited fifteen between pulls.Might be a couple horses to get with some forced air but that's cool.

[r1 daveone]

Originally Posted by BlueBomber14

192RWHP and 117 ftlbs. (without forced air) the fan was broken so we waited fifteen between pulls.Might be a couple horses to get with some forced air but that's cool.

Sweet!!! Those are really good numbers Jerry, what kind of performance products bro?

[r1 daveone]

Originally Posted by ZuluNinja

whad'ya mean no ram air? u took off the guides?

sorry I wasn't able to answer ur question timely but I see someone already did

[BlueBomber14]

Originally Posted by r1 daveone

Sweet!!! Those are really good numbers Jerry, what kind of performance products bro?

Pulled the flies, added a BMC race filter, the full hydro formed Titanium Micron 4-2-1 system, and added the PCIII had the custom map burnt on the dyno, lowered the rear with the Yanashiki links, and stiffened the springs a tad, lowered the front end (or raised the front forks) and that's it mechanically speaking, never cracked a seal.

Not that you can believe anything other than the raw numbers on paper but the guys at Quantum Motorsports here in Dayton said that the dyno was a little conservative compared to the one at Brocks down the road here, so as I said a grain of salt and all but if that's true figure a few more ponies might be hiden in there somewhere (sounds good to me)!!

[r1 daveone]

are we the only two people that have actually dyno the 14's in this forum???

[BlueBomber14]

Ya I think we might be, can't get anyone else to get off there's long enough to get it done guess that's why ours are the best lookin too!!!

[r1 daveone]

Originally Posted by BlueBomber14

Ya I think we might be, can't get anyone else to get off there's long enough to get it done guess that's why ours are the best lookin too!!!

Well Jerry I have to admit you seem to have the right answer for just about every question there is in the forum!!! Your the man bro!!!

[Evilsports]

FWIW The map I'm running was dialed in at 187hp and 110 torque. Exact same setup, exhaust, flies out, air filter, elevation with a few hundred feet. I haven't been on the dyno with my bike yet. I'm waiting for my stage one kit and I'll go for the custom tune.

(Ti Force High Mount, Pipercross, Flies Out)

Give me a few weeks and we should be pushing 250 :)

[r1 daveone]

I have a question which I thought I had the answer to. Does pulling the flies out generate more horse power? I thought it was just for low end power (fast) in other words it generates more power faster than with them in.

[Evilsports]

Originally Posted by r1 daveone

I have a question which I thought I had the answer to. Does pulling the flies out generate more horse power? I thought it was just for low end power (fast) in other words it generates more power faster than with them in.

You are correct as far as I know. I have talked to a few tuners and they say that you sometimes even sacrifice a few HP to bring the torque curve up around 3-4000rpm.

[BlueBomber14]

the flies stay closed as you open the throttle till you reach a predetermined rpm level around 6000-7000 rpm I believe it was, then they begin to open and allow more air thru by removing them you allow the full flow of air requested from the opening of the throttle flies instantly and the addition of the custom map helps the fuel system keep up to pace with the new air flow numbers to achieve the 13:1 optimum fuel air mixture thru the entire power curve. with the flies in there is the equivalent of a vacum area between the secondary and primary flies when the throttle is opened fully under the 6-7 grand level this vacum obviously will restrict the power making ability of the engine. So it doesn't actually make more HP with the flies out it is just restricted from making the actuall HP it is capable of at lower rpms with the flies in. Removing the flies solves this problem.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it!!!!!!!!(even if it's wrong)

[man00]

those are some great numbers, avg I seen was in the 162-174hp range

[DiabloZX14]

164 - stock with flies out and PC

[madd]

Originally Posted by BlueBomber14

Pulled the flies, added a BMC race filter, the full hydro formed Titanium Micron 4-2-1 system, and added the PCIII had the custom map burnt on the dyno, lowered the rear with the Yanashiki links, and stiffened the springs a tad, lowered the front end (or raised the front forks) and that's it mechanically speaking, never cracked a seal.

Not that you can believe anything other than the raw numbers on paper but the guys at Quantum Motorsports here in Dayton said that the dyno was a little conservative compared to the one at Brocks down the road here, so as I said a grain of salt and all but if that's true figure a few more ponies might be hiden in there somewhere (sounds good to me)!!

could you share that custom map with your pals?

[Jaywheel]

What's up family? First post here. I have a '07 ZX 14 with full yosh 4-2-1 and PCIII, K&N air filter and having trouble getting the map just right. Dynojet doesn't have one for my system. Can anybody help with this one? Thanks in advance!

Jay

[Vader_ZX14]

I have flies out, Power Commander, stock air filter ( I know I ask myself the same question....when are you getting real filter), M4 drag slip-ons

172.6 at the rear wheel