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Old 08-19-2010, 11:54 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Allright gentlemen.....I would like to get 160-170 RWHP out of a 2001 ZX11D.....What do I need to do and how much $$ will it take....We the people need to know!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Would like to stick with normally aspirated.....Dyno sheets would be nice too.....Who Built it and where are they located...
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Turbocharging would be by far the easiest and cheapest way to accomplish this ... otherwise you'll have spent so much money on the engine for your extra 30 RWHP you might as well have bought a new bike.
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Turbocharging would be by far the easiest and cheapest way to accomplish this ... otherwise you'll have spent so much money on the engine for your extra 30 RWHP you might as well have bought a new bike.
turbocharging is cheap? You must be wealthy. i think a nitrous setup would be a little less expensive. but you always have to refill the bottle.
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Turbocharging would be by far the easiest and cheapest way to accomplish this ... otherwise you'll have spent so much money on the engine for your extra 30 RWHP you might as well have bought a new bike.


I could have 4 relatively un-modified ZX-11s now, or almost a new 14. But it wasn't just about the money. And, not so sure on the easiest part either.
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Old 08-19-2010, 04:40 PM   #5 (permalink)
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What do you guys consider a "big bore" kit?? If you have to remove the cylinder and bore it to accept new larger pistons is that a "big bore" kit??
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turbocharging is cheap? You must be wealthy. i think a nitrous setup would be a little less expensive. but you always have to refill the bottle.


Well at $89 a piece you could always have 3 on hand......

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well, i am almost done with a 1109 motor that should make some good power. only limiting factor i can see is using stock carbs. 160 to 170 hp should be pretty easy to do with these motors. i have built some really strong motors but never dyno them. this one i might have to do. i will let you know. big bore is a 1195 or 1255 cc.
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Old 08-19-2010, 11:33 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Allright gentlemen.....I would like to get 160-170 RWHP out of a 2001 ZX11D.....What do I need to do and how much $$ will it take....We the people need to know!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Would like to stick with normally aspirated.....Dyno sheets would be nice too.....Who Built it and where are they located...
Crash,
zzr1200 mill is the only way to go with or without 41 flatslides
and keep your 11 engine as a spare.

>> AND just for the record "Racked for ZX11" FCR's 39's/41's are No Longer Availiable
from Keihins distributors << There maybe some left but thats the end of the run

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Old 08-21-2010, 07:13 AM   #9 (permalink)
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well, i am almost done with a 1109 motor that should make some good power. only limiting factor i can see is using stock carbs. 160 to 170 hp should be pretty easy to do with these motors. i have built some really strong motors but never dyno them. this one i might have to do. i will let you know. big bore is a 1195 or 1255 cc.
Seriously?? That is what I have always heard called a "big block" considering you have to REPLACE not re-bore the damn cylinder and or crank...jeez!! A big-bore is re-boring the cylinder and replacing the pistons...Thats what I have learned anyway...I will believe it when i see a dyno sheet... I dont think these motors (1109 or oem)are capable of that much power and be reliable enough to ride 5000 miles...
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Crash,
zzr1200 mill is the only way to go with or without 41 flatslides
and keep your 11 engine as a spare.

>> AND just for the record "Racked for ZX11" FCR's 39's/41's are No Longer Availiable
from Keihins distributors << There maybe some left but thats the end of the run
Oh I know Jay.....This is really to prove a point to taildragger....LOL..you know what I mean...Hell..If i want 170-180HP I will get another 12R with Beetle bags...
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Seriously?? That is what I have always heard called a "big block" considering you have to REPLACE not re-bore the damn cylinder and or crank...jeez!! A big-bore is re-boring the cylinder and replacing the pistons...Thats what I have learned anyway...I will believe it when i see a dyno sheet... I dont think these motors (1109 or oem)are capable of that much power and be reliable enough to ride 5000 miles...
I don't remember you ever saying you had to run a stock block/crank combo. A "Big Bore" is just that. A BIG BORE. If you have to go with a aftermarket block, so be it. You can only go so big on a stock block and have any measure of durability. Muzzy may still have a nice B/B or you could look for one of Superbike Mike's old bolt on kits. You will absolutely have to have a Falicon crank if you go big.
I am sure you have heard all this before. Remember you did all that research?

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Oh I know Jay.....This is really to prove a point to taildragger....LOL..you know what I mean...Hell..If i want 170-180HP I will get another 12R with Beetle bags...
You are not gonna prove anything to me. I already know what is possible. The laws of physics still apply to the ZX-11 motor. There is NO replacement for displacement. Horsepower cost money, How fast do you want to go?
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Oh I know Jay.....This is really to prove a point to taildragger....LOL..you know what I mean...Hell..If i want 170-180HP I will get another 12R with Beetle bags...
YEP
I own a 1255 and the dyno sheet is 181.5 and max torque is 92.8
the price list for build is staggering to say the least

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Old 08-21-2010, 08:08 PM   #13 (permalink)
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well, i am almost done with a 1109 motor that should make some good power. only limiting factor i can see is using stock carbs. 160 to 170 hp should be pretty easy to do with these motors. i have built some really strong motors but never dyno them. this one i might have to do. i will let you know. big bore is a 1195 or 1255 cc.

Still doing all your own machine shop magic? //spd


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I don't remember you ever saying you had to run a stock block/crank combo. A "Big Bore" is just that. A BIG BORE. If you have to go with a aftermarket block, so be it. You can only go so big on a stock block and have any measure of durability. Muzzy may still have a nice B/B or you could look for one of Superbike Mike's old bolt on kits. You will absolutely have to have a Falicon crank if you go big.
I am sure you have heard all this before. Remember you did all that research?



You are not gonna prove anything to me. I already know what is possible. The laws of physics still apply to the ZX-11 motor. There is NO replacement for displacement. Horsepower cost money, How fast do you want to go?
What a doink!! seriously?? We had to go through all this arguing to agree that with nothing more then a big bore kit you wont see anything more then 140ish at the tire....LMAO!! Norm aspirated will only get you to 160ish-180. If you want BIG you gotta boost it.....
We all know that HP costs money. Mods work better in diff bikes then others. That was the point...You can big bore an 11 and get 10 horse or big bore a 12R and get 40.....
I call BS on the displacement thing tho...I had a modded 750turbo Kawi that was an intercooled 810CC "big bore" and would destroy 1500CC busas and such at will at 27PSI....
Look...we all love the 11 but if you want big power then you are going to pay big for it...It works great with the series of popular bolt-on mods but an all out powerhouse drag bike......$$$$$$$$$$$$$
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I own a 1255 and the dyno sheet is 181.5 and max torque is 92.8
the price list for build is staggering to say the least
Thats awesome Jay......My bolt-on modded oem bore12R was right there at 184 and 93.....Wish that motor would "drop" in the the 11.....Thats why I will swap to a zzr1200 mill if the thing ever grenades.....Not as potent as the 12R's but i watched those things for years put down 140-145 at the tire...
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yes, i do my own. i wonder if this is considered a big block?








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[QUOTE=ninja11zx;398438]yes, i do my own. i wonder if this is considered a big block?




Damn showoff!... lol... Nice work!... Looks even better in person!!!

I still need that tranny... Just cant afford it right now... maybe if you throw in a set of cylinders and pistons.... I will go hungry for a few weeks!!!...
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