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08-25-2008, 11:53 AM
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Joined: Aug 2008
From: Fullerton, CA
Posts: 1
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L@@K Leo Vince Exhaust (Performance and Sound)
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08-26-2008, 04:49 AM
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Joined: Jul 2008
From: New England
I Ride: 2005 ZX10R
Posts: 659
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I think most people who choose a 2bros over an LV do so not because they think it's better, but because it's many hundreds of dollars less. This isn't a Chevy vs Ford competition, it's a Chevy vs Porsche. Given the choice I'll take the Porsche any day, but there's more to it than just wanting it more.
Nice looking cans you got there though.
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08-26-2008, 08:08 AM
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Joined: Feb 2008
From: Daytona Beach
I Ride: 2006 ZX-10R
Posts: 902
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well said man
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08-27-2008, 06:48 PM
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Joined: Aug 2008
From: bloomington,Illinois
I Ride: 2008 kawasaki ZX10R
Posts: 14
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I have had Akrapovic full Evolution exhaust on Ducati 853R and it was an absolute thing of beauty.All titanium with carbon cans and huge power gains.On m y Gsxr 750 racebike I just sold, it had a Hindle system and I didn't think it was worth a poop.Nowhere near the quality of the Akrapovic.For my new ZX10 it is still a toss up between the Leo Vince EvoII and the Akrapovic full race system(same as evolution except pipes are stainless instead of titanium).Just remember you get what you pay for.Just look at World superbike race teams and you will see Akrapovic,Leo Vince,Arrow and Termignoni.They use these pipes because they do the most R&D on thier pipes and they actually perform to match the price.Go to Akrapovic's website and see the dyno graphs for the full system and the slip on.HUGE increase of 14 hp in the midrange and 10 more top end horsepower.Well worth the investment in my opinion.
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08-27-2008, 07:02 PM
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Joined: Jul 2008
From: New England
I Ride: 2005 ZX10R
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Find me a slip-on that adds 10-14HP all by itself and I will personally pull one from my ass.
Now, if you're saying a full system dyno'd that improvement, that's another story. That being said, I fail to see how $1000hp for 10HP is a good investment for anyone who isn't a top level professional racer, and I'd be shocked if a full Akrapovic or Leo Vince system would make any less power with a Scorpion, TwoBros, or any other popular can hanging off the end in place of their own.
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ΜOΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ!!!
"And he said O LORD God of my master Abraham, I pray thee, send me good speed this day..."
-Genesis 24:12
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08-27-2008, 09:31 PM
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Joined: Aug 2008
From: bloomington,Illinois
I Ride: 2008 kawasaki ZX10R
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Yes, I am talking about a full system, however I would like to see you pull one out of your ass.I agree with you in that for some people $1000.00 for the performance increase may be a little steep, however if you spend any time at all on a race track for either track days or amateur racing It is well worth the money for the incresed performance as it increases the performance across the majority of the rev range.I'm givingg you a link to check out the specs on a full and slip on system.
http://www.akrapovic.com/product-cat...aust/?puid=445
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08-28-2008, 11:14 AM
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Joined: Apr 2007
From: Phoenix
Posts: 321
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sexy time pipes
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08-28-2008, 01:19 PM
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Joined: Apr 2008
From: Tatooine
I Ride: 07 ZX-10R
Posts: 714
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I would have gotten some expensive tires first...
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08-29-2008, 09:55 PM
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Joined: Dec 2006
From: Tampa, Fl
I Ride: '06 ZX10r
Posts: 391
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 08kwacker10r
I have had Akrapovic full Evolution exhaust on Ducati 853R and it was an absolute thing of beauty.All titanium with carbon cans and huge power gains.On m y Gsxr 750 racebike I just sold, it had a Hindle system and I didn't think it was worth a poop.Nowhere near the quality of the Akrapovic.For my new ZX10 it is still a toss up between the Leo Vince EvoII and the Akrapovic full race system(same as evolution except pipes are stainless instead of titanium).Just remember you get what you pay for.Just look at World superbike race teams and you will see Akrapovic,Leo Vince,Arrow and Termignoni.They use these pipes because they do the most R&D on thier pipes and they actually perform to match the price.Go to Akrapovic's website and see the dyno graphs for the full system and the slip on.HUGE increase of 14 hp in the midrange and 10 more top end horsepower.Well worth the investment in my opinion.
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I have the full racing line akro w/ticans. It weighs a whopping 2 lbs more than the evo and costs about 500.00 less. It turns gold instead of purple stripes which i also like better. i like the akro sound also. it only gets loud over 8k.
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09-08-2008, 05:03 PM
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Newbie
Joined: Sep 2008
From: Sussex, WI
Posts: 12
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hey guys, jsut remember dyno graphs are not a tried tested TRUE method to go off of. a bike with any pipe at sea level will give off a different reading than that same exact bike and pipe at 1000ft. above sea level.......it will always vary.
Quick question though, I noticed you went with the SBK OVAL EVOII CARBON
, and not the SBK FACTORY EVOII CARBON W/ CARBON END CAP. Is this because of the price or personal preference.. or do you know something I don't. Are you just pay for the looks by getting the $1,079 pipe.... or whats up here! do you think they will have different sound or performance values? im not sure myself...
also, may I ask what undertail that is?.. and if it was easy to install or did you have a dealer do it? That setup looks raw as hell dude nice bike!!!
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