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04-07-2008, 08:41 PM
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#41 (permalink)
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From: Daytona Beach
I Ride: 2006 ZX-10R
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04-08-2008, 09:52 AM
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#42 (permalink)
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Joined: Mar 2007
From: Morris Plains, NJ
I Ride: 06 kawi 10r in too fast orange, 06 CBR 1000RR Repsol and drive a 4 banger all wheel drive turbo charged go cart lancer contraption aka EVO
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did u bleed them right?
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04-08-2008, 10:13 AM
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#43 (permalink)
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From: Phoenix
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Vertigo... there will always be a little lever travel... but be sure you bleed them really well again.. SO ... here is the $6 million dollar question, do you want no lever travel, or good brakes... or both... sounds like your brakes are better but with some lever travel.. which is normal for street applications, Now if you spend the $500 and get a billet MC, $1600 for Brembo Calipers, you will still have a small amount of lever travel, very small.... if you are not racing... what you have is more than sufficient.... :)
You have exactly the same setup I used on the track, its was plenty good enough for me, until I started going much faster... braking harder, etc, etc... only then did I start getting some brake fade, which is due to heat more than anything, I also learned that EBC HH pads are some of the hottest running pads out there..changed that too... to ferodo's.... holy shit I'm rambling... I'll shut the hell up now..
btw, what is the brand of your brake fluid?????
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04-08-2008, 10:23 AM
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#44 (permalink)
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From: Daytona Beach
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Motul 5.1, and yes i bled them, furthest caliper, nearest caliper, then MC. Twice... though the SS lines run direct to each caliper so it shouldnt matter which I bleed first... but I used a speed bleeder vacuum system... theres no air in there i garentee it.
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04-08-2008, 10:36 AM
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From: Phoenix
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Castrol SRF might make a small difference, it has the lowest compression rating, highest boiling point of them all...
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04-08-2008, 11:56 AM
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I dont get it though... when i built my 05 ZX6RR, i had OEM stock brakes on it, stock calipers, i bought OEM lines, the MC was stock, and i had never bled brakes before, and they were ROCK solid, no lever travel at all... and here I have a ZX10 with upgraded lines and an R1 MC and it travels 1/3 the way... that doesnt make sense to me...
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04-08-2008, 01:26 PM
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#47 (permalink)
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Joined: Mar 2007
From: Morris Plains, NJ
I Ride: 06 kawi 10r in too fast orange, 06 CBR 1000RR Repsol and drive a 4 banger all wheel drive turbo charged go cart lancer contraption aka EVO
Posts: 1,611
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2 different bikes, if it works good than why worry about the lever travel?
u will get used to it slowly
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04-08-2008, 04:38 PM
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Guess the 6RR brakes just spoiled me... It makes no sense though, why would a less powerful bike have more powerful brakes?
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04-08-2008, 06:44 PM
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Senior Member
Joined: Mar 2007
From: Morris Plains, NJ
I Ride: 06 kawi 10r in too fast orange, 06 CBR 1000RR Repsol and drive a 4 banger all wheel drive turbo charged go cart lancer contraption aka EVO
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Vertigo sezIt makes no sense though, why would a less powerful bike have more powerful brakes?
it makes perfect sense now=the kawi 10r is so fast that even its brakes cant hold it back. it is unstopable
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04-08-2008, 08:40 PM
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#50 (permalink)
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lol if i'd of known i woulda bought a set of brakes of a 6RR and just used those
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04-08-2008, 10:38 PM
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Senior Member
Joined: Mar 2007
From: Morris Plains, NJ
I Ride: 06 kawi 10r in too fast orange, 06 CBR 1000RR Repsol and drive a 4 banger all wheel drive turbo charged go cart lancer contraption aka EVO
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haha
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04-08-2008, 10:51 PM
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From: queensland australia
I Ride: green 07 kawasaki zx10r
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Quote:
Originally Posted by madmax2295
Vertigo sezIt makes no sense though, why would a less powerful bike have more powerful brakes?
it makes perfect sense now=the kawi 10r is so fast that even its brakes cant hold it back. it is unstopable
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04-09-2008, 12:27 AM
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From: United Kingdom
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More lever movement don't mean worse brakes!! I have just bought a Brembo RCS. I am told it has a longer travel when set to 19 x 18 than it does on 19 x 20. Difference is the 20 setting makes the brakes a little wooden. Not tried it yet so can't make my own comment. I would sooner have a little lever movement and great brakes. Reckon you were spoilt on the 6RR. I rember the brakes on my B1, were pretty good...to start with.
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04-16-2008, 01:58 AM
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Joined: May 2007
From: Finland
I Ride: A green ZX-10R 07´
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I recieved this yesterday from RED-RACING Italy...
http://www.moto-racing.co.uk/item--B...+All+Bike.html
Mounted it and WHAT A DIFFERENCE
I had allready mounted steel braided hoses and the Brembo 19RCS master cylinder was the cure for shitty brakes. The OE Nissin is crap!
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04-17-2008, 01:58 AM
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Senior Member
Joined: Mar 2007
From: Morris Plains, NJ
I Ride: 06 kawi 10r in too fast orange, 06 CBR 1000RR Repsol and drive a 4 banger all wheel drive turbo charged go cart lancer contraption aka EVO
Posts: 1,611
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Nissin?
in the US we have tokicos. Arnt nissins better?
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04-17-2008, 06:56 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by madmax2295
Nissin?
in the US we have tokicos. Arnt nissins better?
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On european bikes the master cylinder is Nissin and calipers are Tokico.
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04-17-2008, 11:00 AM
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#57 (permalink)
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Senior Member
Joined: Mar 2007
From: Morris Plains, NJ
I Ride: 06 kawi 10r in too fast orange, 06 CBR 1000RR Repsol and drive a 4 banger all wheel drive turbo charged go cart lancer contraption aka EVO
Posts: 1,611
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oh i see. If u dont mind my asking, how much did that set u back?
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Drive like im about to do 25 to life and ride like a cheetah on cocaine
2006 KAWI ZX 10 R- ARATA full system in titanium, PCIII, custom map, bmc race filter, puig db
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04-17-2008, 06:09 PM
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#58 (permalink)
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we have OEM nissin and tokico too in US......... and I just got my brembo billet 19x20 mounted and bled, etc, etc.... ...bout 3/4inch of play then they are rock solid........ MC was $400 though...
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04-17-2008, 11:21 PM
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#59 (permalink)
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Senior Member
Joined: Mar 2007
From: Morris Plains, NJ
I Ride: 06 kawi 10r in too fast orange, 06 CBR 1000RR Repsol and drive a 4 banger all wheel drive turbo charged go cart lancer contraption aka EVO
Posts: 1,611
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oh i see
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04-18-2008, 02:55 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by madmax2295
oh i see. If u dont mind my asking, how much did that set u back?
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521 USD incl. freight & taxes 
You might think that it was expensive, but a new ZX-10R costs here over 30000 USD incl. taxes
Sometimes I wonder is it really worth it?
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