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07-27-2008, 10:10 PM
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Joined: Jun 2008
From: palm bay fl.
Posts: 31
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oil light on!!!!
07 zx14 full yoshi, pc3, k&n air, flies out.
last night , jumped on the highway, accelerated really hard all the way up to 150mph and noticed the oil light was on. i immediatly pulled the clutch and rolled to a stop and turned off the bike. i checked my oil level, which was perfect, and cranked back up. light came on again, so i shut it off. waited about five minutes, cranked back up, no light, so i headed back home. my question is what could have caused this? my oil level was good. i dont know how to check oil pressure, and if it was an oil pressure issue, why did the light stay off the second time. hopefully this is just an error on the comp. part or a sensor malfunctioning. i did have one worry, while tightening a wellnut that holds the tank cover. the rubber wellnut broke and fell into the frame. as you fellas know, the frame is the airbox. so had to remove the tank, open airbox, and found the nut laying by the intake ports. could a small piece of rubber possibly been sucked in and somehow clogged up in an oil passage? and when i do say small i mean small because i did not see it when i recovered the main piece
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07-28-2008, 12:00 PM
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Joined: Apr 2008
From: Tatooine
I Ride: 07 ZX-10R
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I don't have any technical advice for you, but if your oil light came on you don't need to ride your bike any more until you have resolved that problem, you can cause some real engine damage. Hell, if you see your oil light come on while riding, you need to stop and call a tow. Just speaking from experience...
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07-28-2008, 04:38 PM
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Joined: Apr 2008
From: Petaluma, CA
I Ride: 2007 ZX6R,KX125
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don't worry, there's no way for the nut to find its way into the oil passages. Actually, it won't even get passed the air cleaner unless you have a hole in it. I'd suggest taking the bike in to have it checked out. you could have a couple clogged passages, a bad oil pump or a bad sensor... who knows. you don't want to destroy your engine because of oil starvation.
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07-29-2008, 03:29 PM
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From: palm bay fl.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SLIDER
don't worry, there's no way for the nut to find its way into the oil passages. Actually, it won't even get passed the air cleaner unless you have a hole in it. I'd suggest taking the bike in to have it checked out. you could have a couple clogged passages, a bad oil pump or a bad sensor... who knows. you don't want to destroy your engine because of oil starvation.
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well the bolt did fall on the inside if the air filter. on the 14, theres bolts on the frame, bad thing is that the frame is the airbox an both sides of the filter. but i did get the nut out. i was just thinking worst case scenario. if i might have missed something.
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07-29-2008, 03:47 PM
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From: Petaluma, CA
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oh yeah... forgot about the frame design of the 14. at least you got the nut out.
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Leo Vince SBK EVOII full carbon slip-on
Cat cut out
Emissions removal
PCIIIUSB custom map
Jumper Mod
BMC race filter
Kawasaki velocity stacks
Driven Sprockets -1 +2
Vortex clip-ons
Vortex rearsets GP shift
Attack Performance fiberglass race body
PowerBronze DB windscreen
Ohlins ZX10 steering stabilizer 45wt oil
Hyper Co rear spring
Galfer steel braided front & rear brake lines
Shogun frame & swingarm sliders
Sato front axle sliders
Rear brake resevoir relocation
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08-12-2008, 12:46 PM
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Joined: Aug 2008
From: Geneva, Switzerland
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Like everyone one else said....ive seen low viscosity oil, faulty oil pressure switches, faulty pumps and the plain old "oil sloshing to the back" causing problems on bikes with no problems engine oil wise.....
Freind has a kawasaki er-6n (ninja 650r to you guys) and he had enough oil (ok not right up and level with the max.), but problem was that under really hard braking his light would light up because the oil sloahed away from the oil syphon and the pump started sucking up little bits of air.
Another freind had oil which had somehow mixed with his gas on an old suzuki, oil level was fine but oil was so fluid the oil dropped below the switch's threshold and the light came on.....
Get a kawasaki mechnic to have a look, they should be able to hook up a barometer to check the oil pressure at different temps and engine speeds and compare it to kawasaki's specifications.....
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08-15-2009, 09:15 AM
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Joined: Feb 2009
From: Victoria BC
I Ride: 06 ZX14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by steve-o
07 zx14 full yoshi, pc3, k&n air, flies out.
last night , jumped on the highway, accelerated really hard all the way up to 150mph and noticed the oil light was on.
could a small piece of rubber possibly been sucked in and somehow clogged up in an oil passage? and when i do say small i mean small because i did not see it when i recovered the main piece
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Really?  I mean really?
How could anything get from the air intake and end up in the oil passage? Do you really have any idea of how an engine works? You really do not do you?
Oil scavenging can be a real problem, that is why people like Muzzy's manufacture dry sump conversion kits like this http://www.muzzys.com/ZX14/ZX14_Oil_Pan/index.html.
But I suggest that you not even worry about it, the way you are riding your bike (judging by your various posts) you will not be around long enough to worry about anything on your bike wearing out other than tires.
Once you wedge it under a car or into a sign post it will not matter anyways.
OP
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08-15-2009, 09:38 AM
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Joined: Jul 2009
From: Cheshire, CT
Posts: 145
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Well damn, theres no reason to flame him.
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08-15-2009, 09:50 AM
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Joined: Feb 2009
From: Victoria BC
I Ride: 06 ZX14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ZX6RCT
Well damn, theres no reason to flame him.
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I would have to agree with you, however, have a read over here at this thread,
http://www.zxforums.com/forums/zx-14...v-limiter.html
After replying to that I found his other thread. Seems pretty obvious what we are dealing with here.
Normally I try to play nice, but come on.
BTW usually I just cruise the 14 forum, but there is some really good stuff over here too, I wish I had more free time to surf.
OP
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08-15-2009, 01:47 PM
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Joined: Mar 2008
From: Southern Illinois
I Ride: '04 ZZR 1200
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If the oil light came on and stayed on for a bit, I think the pickup might have sucked wind. If lucky, you may not have done any major damage. If no serious knocking or clattering noises were heard, luck may have won out.
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10-26-2009, 11:54 PM
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Joined: Oct 2009
From: Roswell NM
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pulling hard like that can cause the oil to splash to the back of the pan. Stand the bike up strait when it has not been running make sure the oil level is ok (upper line) then start the bike and see if your oil level goes down if so then your oil pump is sucking oil up into the engine. And the oil passages are inside the area that oil gets to your intake track never gets near oil passages if you get that oil light again you should get it looked at.
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