New Luggage Rack

[dmac01234@aol.com]

We have just released two versions of our redesigned Topbox Rack. The major new feature of our rack is the Slotted Bolt Mounting (patent pending) feature that allows 1-1/2 inches of rack movement. Mounted accessories, such as a topbox or passenger backrest can be adjust for maximum passenger comfort. The rack also allows multiple positioning of Givi's V46 & E52 topboxes on the rack for a maximum adjustment of 3-1/8 inches forwards and backwards. These features virtually assure you the capability of keeping your S/O comfortable and happy while riding. We choose to offer two identicale versions of this rack except one rack offers a ribbed design which maintains Kawasaki's sidecase rib styling, while the other version does not have the ribs. We only have the ribbed version availabile for pictures at this time.




Our racks offer four bungee cords slots in the corners of the rack for strapping down all types of soft luggage. We also incorporated two methods of mounting a Givi topbox. One method is our Topbox Mounting Kit for $16.95 that bolt directly to our rack and the topbox mounts to it. Shown Below



The second mounting method is using the Givi E250 Adapter plate for $59.85 Shown Below



Both mounting methods give you adjustable topbox postioning. This adjustability in conjunction with the Slotted Bolt Mounting feature allows 2-3/4 inches of adjustibilty with the Topbox Mounting kit and up to 3-1/8 inches with the E250 Adapter Plate.

Since we are Givi distributor, we have first hand knowledge in designing our racks to securely hold and support a Givi topbox. Our racks are made from 1/4" thick T6061 aircraft alumium and are long enough to fully support the three mounting points used to hold a Givi topbox on to your bike, no matter which postion you mount the box in. This full support assures your box won't have excessive bouncing because the pyramid clamp (back end)is hanging out in mid air with no support. This was part of the problem with the stock plastic racks that have busted when a Givi box was mounted. If the plastic rack would have been long enough to support the back of the adapter plate, these mishaps probably wouldn't have happened. I know it is just cheap plastic, but the Givi adapter plate is plastic also, but considerably strong in design.

Picture show the E250 adapter plate in rear postion and still fully supported.



With the help of a 18" ruler mounted to the backrest pad, the pictures below show the Givi E52 box mounted in the extreme front, middle and extreme rear postions.







We also offer a backrest unit that can be mounted to the rack if a topcase is not used.




The non-ribbed rack is $159.95 and the ribbed rack is $179.95. We had 10 of the ribbed racks made up and we sold them for the old price of $164.95 to owners who had ordered our orginal version and to one owner who returned his rack for a new one. Our machining vendor increased his price on the ribbed rack since producing the first batch, therfore we have to increase the price on the ribbed rack. We where able to reduce the price on our plain version. We are currently out of both racks but more racks are in the works and we should have both rack around Christmas time. While our racks may not be the cheapest on the market, they offer the most features and versatility bar none and give total support for your Givi topcase. If your planning or considering mounting a topbox to your rack, our rack can save you money. Since our racks are the only ones we know of that can accept the Topbox Mounting kit, this presents a saving of almost $43.00 versus having to buy the Givi E250 adapter plate to mount your Givi V46 or E52 topbox.


We will also be introducing a revised Luggage Rack shortly with the same Slotted Bolt Mounting feature and ribbed designed. Its general shape will be much like the shape of the stock plastic rack, except it will be similar in length to the Topbox Rack. I've tried to answer most of the questions that you might have but I'm sure I missed some. Let me know what you think! http://www.pcaforu.com

[touchwoodsden]

$165?
Er, thanks, but no.

Amend 15 dec 07.
Now those pictures are not the same as when I wrote the above reply
The original rack (pics posted here) was IMHO awful. This one looks good and I would consider even at that price.
TwD

[JamminJere]

Orig. message stricken, no longer applicable.


Thank You,

Jerry

[dmac01234@aol.com]

Originally Posted by JamminJere

Dmac makes some nice products Mr. Touchwoodsden Newbie. Oh and if you are first one to reply to a topic, you don't NEED TO QUOTE PICTURES AND ALL just to reply that you feel the price is too high for YOU. A simple reply is all thats necessary.

I'm sure there is alot of time in the maching process to make the luggage rack and Givi mount plate from a bare piece of stock aluminum. Show a little respect for a craftsman and If you feel the price is too high.. Dont buy it. You dont have to post a billboard around here on whether you agree with what someone is charging for a service.

Thank You,

Jerry

Thanks Jerry for teaching this newbie so manners. If most people realized the hours spent , prototype cost, marketing, insurance, website designing, etc. etc. that goes into developing a product they might think twice about bitching about the price.

[chi-gpz1100]

To touchwoodsden, please quote appropriately - no need to quote the entire text for a reply that needs no quoting at all.

As for the price, well, it is what it is. There are a few racks to choose from at this point and each has it's own benefit(s). I'm still trying to decide which one I want myself (in fact, waiting on some replies from the respective merchants as I type).

If you feel you can do better, please offer the rest of us another option, and we'll decide which is the best value. As JJ stated, there's more involved than just the materials.

[Bagman]

Well it is just what I have been looking for,

The givi hardware mounted direct to the plate looks much better and I am sure is stronger that bolting the plastic givi universal fitting plate on,

And the strap slots round the edge will work for me as secure tie downs when I am not useing a box. A shame that this feature was removed But it now looks fantastic as well as being functional.........

I like to use the bike without a top box when I am on local runs, but Ronda prefers one for the feeling of security it gives her, that fine looking backrest solves the problem for me

So over the weekend I have ordered the Topbox rack , a givi fitting kit and the quick remove backrest.

With the pound so strong at the moment the prices are not so bad and also delivery costs to the UK were very reasonable.

I Can not wait till they arrive..

Stu..

[touchwoodsden]

Originally Posted by chi-gpz1100

To touchwoodsden, please quote appropriately - no need to quote the entire text for a reply that needs no quoting at all.

As for the price, well, it is what it is. There are a few racks to choose from at this point and each has it's own benefit(s). I'm still trying to decide which one I want myself (in fact, waiting on some replies from the respective merchants as I type).

If you feel you can do better, please offer the rest of us another option, and we'll decide which is the best value. As JJ stated, there's more involved than just the materials.

I apologise for the quote thing. I didnt realise (stupidly) that the pics would come out too. I have been on many forums over the years and commercial advertising as such is often frowned upon, on those BBS, BUT I appreciate that this IS informative and may be of interest to some people.
I am expressing my opinion and stand by it that IMO it is expensive.
I know all about prototype and set up costs as I have been in industry for many tears. If for example we had to pay the prototype and tooling costs of, for example, a GIVI box, the fist few would cost 10's of, if not 100's of 1000's of $ or £.
As for "newbie": (my name isnt newbie BTW) may be to this BBS but not to biking, industry, commerce or BBS in general.
No need for such venomous replies.
I still think it expensive. At $100, I would be interested but not at 160 odd.

[hopalong]

Well I have a question, as I'm interested in the product. I'll probably just call and ask tomorrow but, is either Givi case easily removable after the install or is it semi permanent? And which plate would be the best? I like the backrest also. I've already bought and installed the Corbin two piece seat. My wife really likes sitting up higher. I noticed some didn't like the seat but I think it's great and has a good look on the bike. Just my opinion of course. But that's why they make chocolate and vanilla. Thanks for the help.

[dmac01234@aol.com]

Originally Posted by hopalong

Well I have a question, as I'm interested in the product. I'll probably just call and ask tomorrow but, is either Givi case easily removable after the install or is it semi permanent? And which plate would be the best? I like the backrest also. I've already bought and installed the Corbin two piece seat. My wife really likes sitting up higher. I noticed some didn't like the seat but I think it's great and has a good look on the bike. Just my opinion of course. But that's why they make chocolate and vanilla. Thanks for the help.

The case can be removed in about 20 seconds, the givi E250 mounting plate or our Mounting Kit will probably take 2 to 3 minutes to remove. Personal preference is really the only diffence in the two racks. We are almost out of the Topbox Rack (next batch probably 3 weeks) the Luggage Rack is in stock and ready to ship.

[chi-gpz1100]

Dmac, will the jcwhitney box fit this too, or just the givi boxes?

[dmac01234@aol.com]

Originally Posted by chi-gpz1100

Dmac, will the jcwhitney box fit this too, or just the givi boxes?

I'm going to get my friend's JC Whitney's mounting plate and find out. I should know something in the next several days. I'll let you know!

[dmac01234@aol.com]

I just altered the first post on this thread to show our newly revised Topbox Racks. Go to top of page 1 to find out more!

[rifleman223]

Originally Posted by dmac01234@aol.com

I'm going to get my friend's JC Whitney's mounting plate and find out. I should know something in the next several days. I'll let you know!

I am interested in this mount. How much extra is the backrest? I also have the JCWhitney bag.

[mwsedam]

And he's a Steelers fan ...which adds significant points to his stock.

[GTRPete]

Very nice rack, with the ribs, love the adjustment versatility!

I'm a Christmas mood , so I ordered one just now along with a few other goodies. be nice if I get them before the big Day.

[JamminJere]

Ok Ok.... I know I bitched about being teased for having to wait to see the improved version.... Duane, that is just superb design and machining and looks like it will cover everyone's needs. I love the idea of not needing the E250 plate at all, but since I already have one with the light kit mounted, do you think that would be better to use with the racks full support? Or can I use Freds lighting hookup with the new rack? I've been pretty good this year... I think I can persuade Santa into this being a must for our rig..

Come on guys... we flamed Duane when his first design left something to be desired.. Let him know what you think of this improved version and its awesome features.. For a Sport Tourer.... this should have been OEM!!! -Duane my order is in!

See you on the road,

Jerry

ps there ya go reesedp buddy...

[dmac01234@aol.com]

Originally Posted by rifleman223

I am interested in this mount. How much extra is the backrest? I also have the JCWhitney bag.

The JC Whitney topbox can be mounted to our racks in two ways. You can use the steal mounting plate that came with your box and use the front two tapped holes (6MM) already in the plate for the front two mounting bolts. You would then have to drill and tap two more holes for your back two bolts. The other method is to purchase our Topbox Mounting Kit which we would have to alter for the JC Whitney box. The front two button posts need to be thinner in diameter then the stock Givi post. So we would have to machine the post diameter slighty for the JC Whitney box to work. The second method is probably the best as it will allow you to place the box in two different positions. Let me know if your interested and I'll get a mounting kit made up for you. I'm estimating $30.00 to $35.00 for the altered mounting kit.

[dmac01234@aol.com]

Originally Posted by rifleman223

I am interested in this mount. How much extra is the backrest? I also have the JCWhitney bag.

The Backrest Unit, (bar, pad and SS mounting bolts) is $185.00. The pad is adjustable 1-1/4" up and down and using the Slotted Mounting Bolt feature you have 1-1/2" front to back adjustment. The backrest unit may not be able to be used with a topbox at the same time. I have not tested the JC Whitney box for this, but I know the Givi boxes will not fit when the backrest unit is on the rack.

[hopalong]

I recently ordered the topbox rack for my Connie but the delivery date was pushed out a few weeks because you had run out of product. I'm wondering what configuration I'll receive. It was priced at and I paid $164 (Thank you for your order. Your order number is 2559, placed 11/20/2007 at 4:06PM.12534 Kawasaki Concours14 Topbox Rack -1 - $164.95 Total $164.95 . It shipped last week. Any ideas?