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post #1 of 25 (permalink) Old 06-28-2010, 04:35 PM Thread Starter
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Best and worst road surfaces for traction

Concrete, black top, other etc.. How do you guys think they stack up? Sometimes I wonder when I have committed to a turn and the road surface changes.. I wonder if I just lost or gained traction. I am just starting to lean the bike over more as evidenced by my slightly shrinking chicken strips so it has been on my mind.
Oh and why do some of the roads in South Carolina sparkle? Never seen anything like it.

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Sparkles can be either one of two things : Sand, or RR riding his 6R in NC with pink glitter on his helmet!

In all seriousness; I like riding on concrete the most. Tons of grip, but I always get a little scared when I'm on it. The mentality is: If I were to fall right now, I would be more or less sliding on a cheese grater.

Gotta hate that fricken' white lane paint in the mornings or later at night. Pretty much the same as ice!



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Gotta hate that fricken' white lane paint in the mornings or later at night. Pretty much the same as ice!
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I worry more about the bumps in the turns then the type of road surface. But I guess we all have our gremlins.

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Tar Snakes!!! Georgia loves to use that crack sealant shit. I can not get past the fear of that stuff. it will forever haunt me. Some riding buddies it does not bother, they just let the ass end step out like they are on a super moto....i'm to concerned about the front sayin' "buh bye". when we come up on that stuff i simply shut down and almost idle. they all know just to keep on rollin', i'll catch back up when i get out of that shit.

on the note of concrete, around here some of the on ramps are that polished concrete, that scares the shit out of me also.

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on the note of concrete, around here some of the on ramps are that polished concrete, that scares the shit out of me also.

polished concrete? do you mean sealed like this shit?

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You know what Tar Snakes are right?


Not concrete exactly like that, it has a good amount of visible pea gravel mixed in with it but it's so slick it might as well be polished/sealed.

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Around here they will put tar and chip anywhere. Without warning you come up on a curve that just got a fresh coating of pea gravel...WTF!?!?

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I prefer asphalt. Concrete can be awfully slick and, oftentimes, concrete means loose surface material. Tar snakes only bug me in high-speed corners and they don't do that "tar and chip" shit around here. The one thing they do that bugs the hell out of me is they "texture" on/off ramps. Basically, concrete or asphalt, they take this machine and groove the surface. They say it's for drainage during rain but it seems to hold the water better than a slick surface...but what really kills me is that no matter how much it rains or how much traffic runs it over, it's always covered in gravel and debris.

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You know what Tar Snakes are right?


Not concrete exactly like that, it has a good amount of visible pea gravel mixed in with it but it's so slick it might as well be polished/sealed.
lol Tar Snakes, I assumed what they were, I just had never heard the term before. I thought it was a funny (and proper) name!

I think i know what you mean about that kind of concrete. it sucks!



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be in some tight mountain twisties on corners you can't see through at full lean then BAM run upon something similar to this.....



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Best to worst. I also factor in road conditions that allow the tires to warm sufficiently (good), as opposed to conditions where the tires remain cold no matter what road surface (bad)
Freshly cured smooth blacktop (on rails)
Any smooth road where the surface has been sealed with coarse gravel several years back. (first two are very close)
Worn or patched blacktop (road surface can be seen being kicked up from leading riders)
Blacktop with patches of concrete (race line upsetting. I tilt the bike more upright as I go over to compensate for the extra momentary slide rate)
Completely concrete (sliding proportional to surface dust/dirt/sand grit size, similar to riding over painted surfaces)
Worn blacktop with sun heated tar snakes (consider them similar to RR tracks - take perpendicular line whenever possible)
Any road surface where gravel has been knocked onto your path between the entrance and apex (select one of the cage tire lines, where gravel typically tends to be less, and ride it out)
Fresh water running over any road surface where the accumulation of road grime/goo/moss and water mixes to turn the conditions into that of an ice rink. (Evasive action necessary, prepare for death grip)

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on the note of concrete, around here some of the on ramps are that polished concrete, that scares the shit out of me also.
Thats the one that scares me too. I know exactly what you are talking about. Its not quite polished but appears to have a very smooth surface. Its on all of the overpass sweeper on/off ramps and usually has a huge bump where it meets the black top. It freaks me out every time. I typically slow down and let the cages stack up behind me. Fuck 'em I am long gone by the time it straightens out anyway. They will just have to slow down for a minute.

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Smooth, dry blacktop when it's above 65 and sunny: favorite
6" wet grass, doing 70 in a curve: least favorite

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And it's not pink, it's rasberry! (bitch)

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wjat about freshly paved roads they have started to repave a lot of roads around here kinda worried about them but idk what to think
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Freshly paved asphalt is awesome...just stay away from the fresh paint.

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I know this is an old post but macadam roads (small gravel with asphalt lightly poured over) are by far the worst road surface to do a straight-line acceleration. I tried from a 20 mph roll with the computer off and she instantly tried to get sideways. I put her in Full power-mode level 2 and the computer kicked in so much that the run was a joke. I then found a black-top that was freshly paved and she shot off like a rocket.
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Im up in alberta so, because mothernature is a bitch here I will add the following :

1. Ice
2. Snow


I know they are obvious, but up here, you never know when they come around, even on a sunny day of july !
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Smooth, dry blacktop when it's above 65 and sunny: favorite
6" wet grass, doing 70 in a curve: least favorite
Fresh dry black top its real nice.

Worst I have to say tar snakes.

Where do you encounter that much grass on a road lol once I hit a patch of itchy bitchy on a mx I was picking it out of my legs for about a week
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