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[quote=Kaiser Soze;23657]
...............Personally, I don't think it is especially useful or relevant to compare the C-14's weight with the weight of the original Concours. If that is relevant, then it should also be relevant to compare it with bikes made twenty years before that, during the middle of the Vietnam era, and twenty years earlier still, during the WWII era, and so on and so forth..........
You are kidding me here right?
The comparison was solely because the bike has the same name, and for the pilots of the original Concours model looking at its replacement....
..........For that matter, it isn't particularly relevant that it weighs 140 lbs more than the ZX-14..........
No its not.. because again.. I was stating that 20 pounds difference between bikes in the SAME CLASS isn't a big deal.
......What is relevant, is how much is weighs in comparison to other similar modern bikes, which will not include either the original Concours or the ZX-14.......
Well the new FJR1300A is about 582lbs dry.... thats a whole 33 pounds difference.. and the ST is probably about the same amount more than the C1400.. again, we are talking about what? 3 to 5 percent difference in total weight.
And you can feel that difference on the street?..
Possibly how the weight is carried on different models may feel more top heavy... Maybe the steering head angle has a more or less heavy feel at slower speeds to achieve high speed stability...
But just going down the road accelerating, braking, in turns.. who the heck says.. ya know.. I think this is about 5 percent heavier.. man I just gotta ride something lighter.
......Some people don't care that much about the weight. Others do. Some people like to have their cake with their coffee, while others don't like coffee, and some don't even like cake. Sometimes the baker will put a little coffee into the icing on the cake, in which case the people who don't like coffee will often say, hopefully in a matter-of-fact tone, that they would have preferred that the baker had not put so much coffee in the cake icing. As long as the people who express that opinion do so in a reasonably civilized tone, I have no quarrel with that. But when someone then comes along and makes a big fuss over it, confronting those people for having expressed their displeasure with the amount of coffee in the cake icing, and calling them all a bunch of fat, whining obese slobs, that just seems unnecessary, and, dare I say, rude........
Sorry you lost me there... but I understand everyone has their own likings as to what they want in a motorcycle..
These are Full Size Sport-Tourers with around 150hp at the rear wheel, for two people to travel on in comfort, at speed. Gonna get one near the weight of a sport bike? Nope. I've never ridden while eating cake or coffee cake or drinking coffee at the same time and stopped on a scale to check if my bike weight was something I was in favor of, or displeased with. Have you ever stopped by a weight scale to check what your fully laden scoot is?
But like you said.. If you're not happy riding bikes that weigh alot, and dont feel comfortable handling the weight of those type bikes, (and please dont take this the wrong way) than I suggest you ride bikes of smaller weight and stature and be happy with that.
And I never insinuated anyone was a fat obese slob, I insinuated that people who whine about a weight difference that I highly doubt most of them could even feel in the real world should stop whining about it.. and just buy the bike that turns them on, and enjoy it. But hey.. If i joined a whining forum instead.. I can correct that too.
See you on the road,
Jerry
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There really isn't much difference between "the masses" and "them asses"....
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